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<blockquote data-quote="Rod Snell" data-source="post: 1104472" data-attributes="member: 796"><p><strong>You completely missed the point, and your uninformed attempts at personal insults are inappropriate</strong>.</p><p></p><p>MY Points:</p><p>1. <strong>The use of Article 15 by the commander was wrong, because Artice 15 is NOT trivial, and the punishment can be severe. It is to be used only "in lieu of court martial."</strong></p><p></p><p>2. For those not schooled in military justice, <strong>the defendent can ony know what the MAXIMUM possible punishment is, not what he wil "really" get.</strong></p><p>Thus it makes perfect sense for the accused in this case to refuse Article 15, and demand trial. The defense lawyer probably thinks he can win against such a weak case.</p><p></p><p>3. I handled a similar problem entirely differently from this seals incident. A superior officer called me and demanded I give one of my people an Article 15. I told him I had already "punished" him with a written reprimand (which prevents further punishment under military law). My superior officer chewed me up one side and down the other for not doing more, but the case was over, and he knew it. I thanked my superior officer for his call, and that was the end of it.</p><p></p><p><strong>That's my opinion of how a good commander handles it when one of your good people attracts the wrong attention.</strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rod Snell, post: 1104472, member: 796"] [B]You completely missed the point, and your uninformed attempts at personal insults are inappropriate[/B]. MY Points: 1. [B]The use of Article 15 by the commander was wrong, because Artice 15 is NOT trivial, and the punishment can be severe. It is to be used only "in lieu of court martial."[/B] 2. For those not schooled in military justice, [B]the defendent can ony know what the MAXIMUM possible punishment is, not what he wil "really" get.[/B] Thus it makes perfect sense for the accused in this case to refuse Article 15, and demand trial. The defense lawyer probably thinks he can win against such a weak case. 3. I handled a similar problem entirely differently from this seals incident. A superior officer called me and demanded I give one of my people an Article 15. I told him I had already "punished" him with a written reprimand (which prevents further punishment under military law). My superior officer chewed me up one side and down the other for not doing more, but the case was over, and he knew it. I thanked my superior officer for his call, and that was the end of it. [B]That's my opinion of how a good commander handles it when one of your good people attracts the wrong attention.[/B] [/QUOTE]
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