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so went and finally shot this new over and under i got at a trap shoot today.

anybody know a good gunsmith that would not charge much to setup a over under shotgun barrel with a bead sight? im thinking it needs a new one drilled and tapped. its some russian over under i got cheap from a pawn shop. its got some odd threads and was really stuck in the barrel. i booger'd it up pretty bad trying to remove it with some pliers and just gave up. was really frustrating to be honest. at this point im willing to pay a good bit of money to have a professional install something or just file the front sight bead off entirely depending on my next question. would have been easier if i had a little propane torch probably and heated it up a bit.



also, my question about choice of sights for it.

i was thinking of one of these fiber optic ones but i did not know if something like this would be allowed in serious trap/skeet shooting competitions.

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what kind of rules do places that have competitions generally have on these type of things? you know, its to the point im ready to just file that bead off entirely if even this is not allowed. i would like a pistol type sight setup ideally like on my NON-acceptable shotgun that i do amazing at shooting clays with. this guns just harder to use and new to me. side by side round by round i shoot better with my other gun but it gets some serious dirty looks at these kind of places. it just has a rear notch and front post on it like pistol sights and is not adjustable at all.



i got old welder aging eyes and i think alot of it had to do with the fact i was shooting without any choke just full open when i should have had like a modified choke in the gun.

i was about oh, 30-40 yards away and was really just winging most of the clays i hit. every now and then id bust one before they got to far out from me.


the gun i got is a baikal mp-310, if anybody knows the threadpitch or size for chokes id like to order a set of modified ones for it so i will have a little bit better chance next time and a better tighter pattern.

was my first time shooting this gun ever, and i do light years better with my semi auto saiga even if im just loading a single round into the gun 1 at a time.... i hit the clays more consistently with that gun over this new gun i just got.
 

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Those Baikal o/u have an incredible amount of stock cast to the right, hold the entire shotgun out in front of you and you'll see that the stock slants off to the right. It's ok if you shoot right handed, could prove troublesome if you shoot left.

As far as a bead, 99% of shotgun shooters that shoot trap, skeet, sporting clays, etc could tell you what or if they have a bead on the front, as we don't look at them. My o/u that I waterfowl hunt with didn't have one for almost 30y lol. A bead is great for turkey hunting though.
 

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its some russian over under i got cheap from a pawn shop. its got some odd threads and was really stuck in the barrel. i booger'd it up pretty bad trying to remove it with some pliers and just gave up.
I'm not sure all cheapies have threaded beads (it might be pressed in). If threaded, vise-grips might remove it.

Just a thought. :drunk2:
 
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I'm not sure all cheapies have threaded beads (it might be pressed in). If threaded, vise-grips might remove it.

Just a thought. :drunk2:

yeah i dont think its threaded. i pretty much destroyed it because its super marr'd and to the point the ball bead is now like jagged from being reformed from the locking jaw pliers i used trying to remove it. i tried. that thing aint budging. i locked onto it good. im pretty sure they pressed it in.
 

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