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<blockquote data-quote="Buzzgun" data-source="post: 3196274" data-attributes="member: 4715">I wanted proof and then didn&#039;t want proof????......try to keep up.....Your words:&quot;I think the whole point of this article was to illustrate that when gun control is going to be inevitably passed&quot;&quot;How are they to stop legislation that will inevitably be passed?&quot;&quot;So if the house and senate already have the votes for gun control legislation the NRA can still stop it?&quot;Apparently, you accept Liptak&#039;s statement that the votes were there to pass gun control measures that would be more damaging than a bump stock ban........I do not assume that is true and asked &quot; Again, who said the votes were there?? Where is the proof of that???&quot;&nbsp; Then you wrote: &quot;With the huge amount of influence the other organizations have I&#039;m surprised you don&#039;t already have the proof you seek.&quot;My response: &quot;why would I look for proof of something I don&#039;t believe is true??&quot;and now you say &quot;In the previous post your wanted proof...now you don&#039;t want it?&quot;.......not sure where that came from??? I don&#039;t necessarily believe the votes were there just because Liptak said they were.Had to look up NAGR......no, I&#039;m not a member......don&#039;t know anything about them.As far as NRA being our only hope??? Well, if the NRA ship is headed for an iceberg, I think I&#039;d rather be in one of the smaller boats that isn&#039;t being steered by idiots like Wayne and Chris.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Buzzgun, post: 3196274, member: 4715"] I wanted proof and then didn't want proof????......try to keep up..... Your words: "I think the whole point of this article was to illustrate that when gun control is going to be inevitably passed" "How are they to stop legislation that will inevitably be passed?" "So if the house and senate already have the votes for gun control legislation the NRA can still stop it?" Apparently, you accept Liptak's statement that the votes were there to pass gun control measures that would be more damaging than a bump stock ban........I do not assume that is true and asked " Again, who said the votes were there?? Where is the proof of that???" Then you wrote: "With the huge amount of influence the other organizations have I'm surprised you don't already have the proof you seek." My response: "why would I look for proof of something I don't believe is true??" and now you say "In the previous post your wanted proof...now you don't want it?".......not sure where that came from??? I don't necessarily believe the votes were there just because Liptak said they were. Had to look up NAGR......no, I'm not a member......don't know anything about them. As far as NRA being our only hope??? Well, if the NRA ship is headed for an iceberg, I think I'd rather be in one of the smaller boats that isn't being steered by idiots like Wayne and Chris. [/QUOTE]

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