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<blockquote data-quote="mugsy" data-source="post: 2299379" data-attributes="member: 18914">Of course, the current American government can last - the question is always &quot;how long&quot; and since nothing is ever static you have to do constant change analysis.&nbsp; Anyone who is &quot;intellectually honest&quot; should be able to recognize, and admit, that there are always numerous possible outcomes.&nbsp; It also raises the question of what you mean by &quot;last&quot; - do you mean fall out of favor and be rejected by voters, or another great depression-like event, or a total systemic collapse, etc.&nbsp;&nbsp; The kind of language you are using reminds me of an interview with (a very young) Tom Hayden - former husband of Jane Fonda, former CA State representative, and former member of the 1960&#039;s era radical group Students for a Democratic Society (SDS).&nbsp; In the course of that interview, while being asked about the possibilities of reform that would make the &quot;system&quot; more palatable to the SDS, Tom Hayden remarked with incredulity (I paraphrase) surely the interviewer couldn&#039;t seriously believe that there wouldn&#039;t be a revolution in America within the next few years.Well, there wasn&#039;t a revolution but there was a great deal of change - some good and some not so good.&nbsp; I suspect that is a lot more likely to be the outcome of our current challenges than any sudden desperate collapse.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mugsy, post: 2299379, member: 18914"] Of course, the current American government can last - the question is always "how long" and since nothing is ever static you have to do constant change analysis. Anyone who is "intellectually honest" should be able to recognize, and admit, that there are always numerous possible outcomes. It also raises the question of what you mean by "last" - do you mean fall out of favor and be rejected by voters, or another great depression-like event, or a total systemic collapse, etc. The kind of language you are using reminds me of an interview with (a very young) Tom Hayden - former husband of Jane Fonda, former CA State representative, and former member of the 1960's era radical group Students for a Democratic Society (SDS). In the course of that interview, while being asked about the possibilities of reform that would make the "system" more palatable to the SDS, Tom Hayden remarked with incredulity (I paraphrase) surely the interviewer couldn't seriously believe that there wouldn't be a revolution in America within the next few years. Well, there wasn't a revolution but there was a great deal of change - some good and some not so good. I suspect that is a lot more likely to be the outcome of our current challenges than any sudden desperate collapse. [/QUOTE]

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