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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dennishoddy" data-source="post: 1985452" data-attributes="member: 5412">I am beginning to think most Americans are cheap bastards who want government services but don't want to help pay for them. Or maybe we really do want to cut medicare, social security, medicaid, police, fire, etc. etc. etc. We can move to the woods and live off the land. Yeah, that's the ticket . . .(a quote from a post that got deleted) Actually its not that bad of a gig. If my wife weren't such a wuss, I would live off the land more than we do. We bought a 1/4 beef two years ago and have some left. We prefer elk, deer, fish, pheasant, etc. We can veggie's/fruits, that taste one hell of a lot better than the store bought crap full of sugar and salt. Freeze/preserve all we can.Unfortunatly 99.99% of folks can't do that even if they wanted to. Its amazing how many actually want to go that direction if they have a choice. Urban gardens are a huge hit in the metro areas. A Church in Ponca had an empty lot next door to their facility, and they turned it into a community garden. All over the US when that has happened, people line up to do put in their little place of heaven.Unfortunatly folks that live in the metro areas are forced to live by the mandates of government. Sometimes people vote, and don't really understand what they are voting for.</blockquote>