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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lurker66" data-source="post: 1985523" data-attributes="member: 24459">Yep, i think eventually our society will fail too.  Historically all great ones have.  But i look at it this way.  Look how many people died in vain to protect slavery.  Or how many suffered and struggled during the days before Teddy R dismantled the monopolies.How many people got their heads cracked or died during the civil rights era, or protesting a unpopular war?  All because we were split in our idealolgies.I agree we have too many ppl on gov help, but the government is the process for fixing our problems. Businesses aint gonna change unless the government makes them.  Attitudes need to change or ya aint gonna sit at the bargining table.  It'll be crammed down some throats, thats how we got Obamacare.</blockquote>