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<blockquote data-quote="dennishoddy" data-source="post: 2708879" data-attributes="member: 5412"><p>Nukes would be great, but with current regs relating to waste and NRC restrictions I doubt seriously we will see large scale nuke plants being built. </p><p>As a matter of fact, I attended a class at the Perry nuke plant in Cleveland Oh. </p><p>They built two identical reactors. The first unit was commissioned and went on line while its twin was under construction. </p><p>The second unit was completed, but with some incidents that occurred at that time, and public protest, the second unit was mothballed, and sits to this day unused. </p><p></p><p>I worked in a coal plant for 16 years, and was EPA certified emissions tester, so I know a little about the industry and how it works. </p><p>There is a lot of misleading information out there from both sides regarding wind this or that. </p><p>I'm on my phone so I don't have all the resources available at the moment but here is one thing that is a fact, your electric bill is going up over the next couple of years, dramatically. </p><p>The new EPA regs, and the lawsuit over regional haze is forcing OG&E to install scrubbers on two coal power plants that supply base load to Oklahoma, parts of Arkansas, and New Mexico. </p><p>These will cost BILLIONS of dollars to construct and require just as many people to operate as the power plant itself. </p><p>Oklahoma power generation is controlled by the corporation commission. They are the ones that dictate electric prices in Ok. </p><p>The cost of building and maintaining scrubbers that basically eat them selves up internally with the chemicals used in the process down the road will have all of that expense added to your electric bill. </p><p></p><p>Many times I sat in the control room where we have the capability of monitoring every source of power generation in ok. Including wind farms, NG plants, and the hydro plants around the state, watching the wind die resulting in zero power generation from wind. </p><p>OMPA controls the hydro plant at Kaw lake. It only runs when there is enough inflow to the lake to justify putting the hydro on line. </p><p>Some summers, it may not run for weeks at a time, hence, my comments about needing base load units to maintain the grids requirements, and using backup sources to supplement base load. </p><p>My thumb is going numb, that's all for now.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dennishoddy, post: 2708879, member: 5412"] Nukes would be great, but with current regs relating to waste and NRC restrictions I doubt seriously we will see large scale nuke plants being built. As a matter of fact, I attended a class at the Perry nuke plant in Cleveland Oh. They built two identical reactors. The first unit was commissioned and went on line while its twin was under construction. The second unit was completed, but with some incidents that occurred at that time, and public protest, the second unit was mothballed, and sits to this day unused. I worked in a coal plant for 16 years, and was EPA certified emissions tester, so I know a little about the industry and how it works. There is a lot of misleading information out there from both sides regarding wind this or that. I'm on my phone so I don't have all the resources available at the moment but here is one thing that is a fact, your electric bill is going up over the next couple of years, dramatically. The new EPA regs, and the lawsuit over regional haze is forcing OG&E to install scrubbers on two coal power plants that supply base load to Oklahoma, parts of Arkansas, and New Mexico. These will cost BILLIONS of dollars to construct and require just as many people to operate as the power plant itself. Oklahoma power generation is controlled by the corporation commission. They are the ones that dictate electric prices in Ok. The cost of building and maintaining scrubbers that basically eat them selves up internally with the chemicals used in the process down the road will have all of that expense added to your electric bill. Many times I sat in the control room where we have the capability of monitoring every source of power generation in ok. Including wind farms, NG plants, and the hydro plants around the state, watching the wind die resulting in zero power generation from wind. OMPA controls the hydro plant at Kaw lake. It only runs when there is enough inflow to the lake to justify putting the hydro on line. Some summers, it may not run for weeks at a time, hence, my comments about needing base load units to maintain the grids requirements, and using backup sources to supplement base load. My thumb is going numb, that's all for now. [/QUOTE]
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