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<blockquote data-quote="sh00ter" data-source="post: 2755468" data-attributes="member: 24531"><p>A respectable post...but there are other vaccines where the cost/benefit just isn't there to even consider coercing people into it. That's what bothers me about the militant pro-vaccine movement. They do not break down the vaccines case-by-case...the gov't could require 1000 vaccines and there would be no questions asked from these people...some of the vaccines offer virtually no benefit by making all infants get them (such as Hep_B). It is an adult disease and a pregnant woman is tested for it in advance. Only those cases where the mother has the virus is there a case to be made that the baby should get it. But right now, ALL babies get it and it isn't justifiable unless you like controlling others, injecting aborted fetal DNA into your child, and have investments in drug companies . And that is a small % of the population of new mothers that are infected with Hep-B...these vaccines should be case-by-case and not blindly regarded as infallible and equal cost/benefit. Also, the schedule should be routinely evaluated. Some other developed nations like Norway that vaccinate have less vaccines and different schedules and their adverse effects vs. disease rates and infant mortality are much better than us. If someone only argues on emotion and wants to compel other people at the barrel of a gun to do something that they think could hurt their kid, then don't you expect some push back? And again, why do these conservative Christians seem to ignore the aborted fetal cells used to grow the viruses for some of the live virus vaccines? Isn't that the perfect case for a religious exemption? People like the guy earlier just make an emotional appeal about their grandchildren and ignore any counter-perspective because they have an agenda. That agenda MUST be to control other people with the power of the state because otherwise, a reasonable person would want to know the data and the risks to their children...again, how many kids die from diseases proven to be contracted by an unvaccinated child sent to school contagious by a negligent parent? Probably none in Oklahoma so isn't this a knee jerk reaction to a problem that doesn't exist? What's next, poll taxes for poor people and minorities? I mean, they can still vote right? So it isn't forced LOL.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I knew you'd go ahead and side with your neo-con buddies Ace...you know as well as I do that by doing this, they would disenfranchise the majority of people who wish to opt out...it is a form of coercion to deny access to public school for which I pay taxes for, because I will not do something that you think is best for my kids...sick control freaks and fear mongers is what we are dealing with...don't mess with our children and our freedom.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sh00ter, post: 2755468, member: 24531"] A respectable post...but there are other vaccines where the cost/benefit just isn't there to even consider coercing people into it. That's what bothers me about the militant pro-vaccine movement. They do not break down the vaccines case-by-case...the gov't could require 1000 vaccines and there would be no questions asked from these people...some of the vaccines offer virtually no benefit by making all infants get them (such as Hep_B). It is an adult disease and a pregnant woman is tested for it in advance. Only those cases where the mother has the virus is there a case to be made that the baby should get it. But right now, ALL babies get it and it isn't justifiable unless you like controlling others, injecting aborted fetal DNA into your child, and have investments in drug companies . And that is a small % of the population of new mothers that are infected with Hep-B...these vaccines should be case-by-case and not blindly regarded as infallible and equal cost/benefit. Also, the schedule should be routinely evaluated. Some other developed nations like Norway that vaccinate have less vaccines and different schedules and their adverse effects vs. disease rates and infant mortality are much better than us. If someone only argues on emotion and wants to compel other people at the barrel of a gun to do something that they think could hurt their kid, then don't you expect some push back? And again, why do these conservative Christians seem to ignore the aborted fetal cells used to grow the viruses for some of the live virus vaccines? Isn't that the perfect case for a religious exemption? People like the guy earlier just make an emotional appeal about their grandchildren and ignore any counter-perspective because they have an agenda. That agenda MUST be to control other people with the power of the state because otherwise, a reasonable person would want to know the data and the risks to their children...again, how many kids die from diseases proven to be contracted by an unvaccinated child sent to school contagious by a negligent parent? Probably none in Oklahoma so isn't this a knee jerk reaction to a problem that doesn't exist? What's next, poll taxes for poor people and minorities? I mean, they can still vote right? So it isn't forced LOL. I knew you'd go ahead and side with your neo-con buddies Ace...you know as well as I do that by doing this, they would disenfranchise the majority of people who wish to opt out...it is a form of coercion to deny access to public school for which I pay taxes for, because I will not do something that you think is best for my kids...sick control freaks and fear mongers is what we are dealing with...don't mess with our children and our freedom. [/QUOTE]
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