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<blockquote data-quote="okietool" data-source="post: 2721954" data-attributes="member: 6030"><p>Here's some other thoughts (off topic).</p><p>I think DrinkYourMilkShake stated exploration companies don't want to use the water.</p><p>Water is not free.</p><p>Disposal is not free.</p><p>Trucking is not free.</p><p>You can only reuse frac water so many times. It picks up water soluble clays, salt, etc. during the frac process. Clays and formation water from different zones don't always like each other. The results can be interesting. (From a distance).</p><p>You can only filter and centrifuge so much out (and then you have solids to dispose of).</p><p>Then you have to distill it to reuse it..."THAT'S WHAT YOU SHOULD DO" you say.</p><p>My company does. It raises the cost of the water from about $1.50 to $2.10 per barrel (for just the water, no trucking, no piping). It's not cost effective. (Yet). We were still doing it.</p><p>Oil price drops, one of the first expenses dropped, the development of the distillery. </p><p>There have to be numbers somewhere showing how much produced water is put in disposals and injection wells. I can't find them. I'm sure there's also numbers for frac water disposal.</p><p>I'd like to see a soil farming experiment, that might require a different frac blend, but then the water could be useful.</p><p>We're putting covers on frac pits to slow evaporation.</p><p></p><p>We don't want to spend the money, but so far there's nothing more cost effective.</p><p></p><p>Even if there's going to be liabilities involved, I don't see oil and gas exploration companies being able to get away from water intensive fracs. It may cause there to be really stinky frac water pits around, it may me it gets trucked out of state. It may just involve a more judicious placement of disposal wells.</p><p></p><p>If the frac job itself is causing the earthquakes, shouldn't there be some sheared casing strings in the laterals? My son is one of the people that specialize in stuff like repairing parted casing, he's not seeing it.</p><p>Royalty owners should be able to tell by drops in production and the checks generated by the production. On the royalty checks I paid attention to, there are production volumes.</p><p></p><p></p><p>And now you know how convoluted my thought process is.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="okietool, post: 2721954, member: 6030"] Here's some other thoughts (off topic). I think DrinkYourMilkShake stated exploration companies don't want to use the water. Water is not free. Disposal is not free. Trucking is not free. You can only reuse frac water so many times. It picks up water soluble clays, salt, etc. during the frac process. Clays and formation water from different zones don't always like each other. The results can be interesting. (From a distance). You can only filter and centrifuge so much out (and then you have solids to dispose of). Then you have to distill it to reuse it..."THAT'S WHAT YOU SHOULD DO" you say. My company does. It raises the cost of the water from about $1.50 to $2.10 per barrel (for just the water, no trucking, no piping). It's not cost effective. (Yet). We were still doing it. Oil price drops, one of the first expenses dropped, the development of the distillery. There have to be numbers somewhere showing how much produced water is put in disposals and injection wells. I can't find them. I'm sure there's also numbers for frac water disposal. I'd like to see a soil farming experiment, that might require a different frac blend, but then the water could be useful. We're putting covers on frac pits to slow evaporation. We don't want to spend the money, but so far there's nothing more cost effective. Even if there's going to be liabilities involved, I don't see oil and gas exploration companies being able to get away from water intensive fracs. It may cause there to be really stinky frac water pits around, it may me it gets trucked out of state. It may just involve a more judicious placement of disposal wells. If the frac job itself is causing the earthquakes, shouldn't there be some sheared casing strings in the laterals? My son is one of the people that specialize in stuff like repairing parted casing, he's not seeing it. Royalty owners should be able to tell by drops in production and the checks generated by the production. On the royalty checks I paid attention to, there are production volumes. And now you know how convoluted my thought process is. [/QUOTE]
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