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<blockquote data-quote="dennishoddy" data-source="post: 4202553" data-attributes="member: 5412"><p>LOL, I retired from OG&E Sooner Power coal fired power plant. Not one government dime was spent when unit 1 was commissioned in 1971 and Unit 2 was commissioned in 1973.</p><p>The rate payers paid for it. Oklahoma energy is regulated by the Oklahoma Corporation commission.</p><p>Rates and regulations have to go through them first. </p><p>In 2002 and 2004 Four of us along with a project manager totally rebuilt the control system that runs that plant. Wire bundles a foot thick were cut and fiber optic ran over 100,000 data points were checked and verified. Software serial numbers 0001 and 0002. We helped develop the newest software in the world. It was a collaboration between ABB and OG&E.</p><p>Not one government dime was spent during those two upgrades. The rate payers paid for it to make the units more efficient and economical. </p><p>In contrast, the government has cost the rate payers in Oklahoma hundreds of millions of dollars by trying to restrict emissions from the plant and others like it around the country. </p><p>Around 2010 obummer said mercury was the issue in emissions. Gotta shut these plants down. </p><p>Appointed a Mercury Czar that somehow was kinda related to him to start the process of shutting down coal plants because of mercury emissions. </p><p>OG&E spent around 10 million dollars of the rate payers money, not the governments to install a mercury emissions testing lab on site on two of our 500' tall stacks. The EPA monitored and checked our results. I was also part of that team. The stack part. I hated going up there in the middle of the night or anytime for that matter, but it was the job. </p><p>After over a year of testing, it was determined that the amount of mercury coming out of those stacks which is naturally occurring in the earth was so low that most of the time the controls that measured as low as 1 part per billion didn't register anything. </p><p>Once again, the rate payer lost that money. No money came from government. </p><p>2014, obummer once again was going to shut down coal fired power plants to regulate particulates into the atmosphere. Gotta be causing global warming? </p><p>Once again OG&E stepped up at the cost of the rate payer to install scrubbers at the plant. I retired at the start of construction. I'd had enough of 90 hour work weeks and no days off for months. </p><p>In contrast, the wind farms could not have been built without government assistance. </p><p>We monitored every wind farm in Oklahoma from our control room. It was amazing how in-efficient they were. Wind doesn't blow, there is no power. Mechanical problems are rampant with the towers going offline all the time. Most got derated from their advertised peak power producing capacity to about 60% of that in reality.</p><p></p><p>Now, I will agree with some of your comments. OG&E did accept government assistance to install smart meters around their service areas. It appeared to be a smart move to save money for the tax payers and investors as the teams of meter readers were phased out. </p><p>What I don't agree with is that they can be remotely shut off. The government owns the internet basically and in the future will have the ability to control your power for "global warming".</p><p></p><p>I could probably fill the bandwidth of OSA talking about the things the Oklahoma Coporation Commission has done that is good, and sometimes very bad for the rate payers in Oklahoma.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dennishoddy, post: 4202553, member: 5412"] LOL, I retired from OG&E Sooner Power coal fired power plant. Not one government dime was spent when unit 1 was commissioned in 1971 and Unit 2 was commissioned in 1973. The rate payers paid for it. Oklahoma energy is regulated by the Oklahoma Corporation commission. Rates and regulations have to go through them first. In 2002 and 2004 Four of us along with a project manager totally rebuilt the control system that runs that plant. Wire bundles a foot thick were cut and fiber optic ran over 100,000 data points were checked and verified. Software serial numbers 0001 and 0002. We helped develop the newest software in the world. It was a collaboration between ABB and OG&E. Not one government dime was spent during those two upgrades. The rate payers paid for it to make the units more efficient and economical. In contrast, the government has cost the rate payers in Oklahoma hundreds of millions of dollars by trying to restrict emissions from the plant and others like it around the country. Around 2010 obummer said mercury was the issue in emissions. Gotta shut these plants down. Appointed a Mercury Czar that somehow was kinda related to him to start the process of shutting down coal plants because of mercury emissions. OG&E spent around 10 million dollars of the rate payers money, not the governments to install a mercury emissions testing lab on site on two of our 500' tall stacks. The EPA monitored and checked our results. I was also part of that team. The stack part. I hated going up there in the middle of the night or anytime for that matter, but it was the job. After over a year of testing, it was determined that the amount of mercury coming out of those stacks which is naturally occurring in the earth was so low that most of the time the controls that measured as low as 1 part per billion didn't register anything. Once again, the rate payer lost that money. No money came from government. 2014, obummer once again was going to shut down coal fired power plants to regulate particulates into the atmosphere. Gotta be causing global warming? Once again OG&E stepped up at the cost of the rate payer to install scrubbers at the plant. I retired at the start of construction. I'd had enough of 90 hour work weeks and no days off for months. In contrast, the wind farms could not have been built without government assistance. We monitored every wind farm in Oklahoma from our control room. It was amazing how in-efficient they were. Wind doesn't blow, there is no power. Mechanical problems are rampant with the towers going offline all the time. Most got derated from their advertised peak power producing capacity to about 60% of that in reality. Now, I will agree with some of your comments. OG&E did accept government assistance to install smart meters around their service areas. It appeared to be a smart move to save money for the tax payers and investors as the teams of meter readers were phased out. What I don't agree with is that they can be remotely shut off. The government owns the internet basically and in the future will have the ability to control your power for "global warming". I could probably fill the bandwidth of OSA talking about the things the Oklahoma Coporation Commission has done that is good, and sometimes very bad for the rate payers in Oklahoma. [/QUOTE]
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