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<blockquote data-quote="henschman" data-source="post: 2783918" data-attributes="member: 4235"><p>I am an attorney who handles criminal matters. Unfortunately you are precluded from getting an Oklahoma handgun license by the SDA, and it is highly unlikely that anyone could get the SDA overturned on Constitutional grounds after <em>Heller. </em> </p><p></p><p>One option you have is to look for another State that issues non-resident permits, and doesn't have anything like the three-year rule. Oklahoma has full reciprocity with all other States' carry licenses, even when their provisions are less strict than Oklahoma's, so you would be good to go. I have a NR carry permit from Maine, which was very easy and cheap to get through the mail. No fingerprints required or anything. You just have to show proof of some sort of handgun safety training with live fire from a recognized organization or government agency. I would probably start by reading through Maine's carry laws and seeing if you are eligible.</p><p></p><p>When it comes to your original question, regarding permitless OC as an employee, it comes down to the section about "any other authority," and hinges on whether as an employee you have any authority over the property you work at, and whether a court would construe it that way if you were prosecuted. This is what the employees of H&H in OKC did for years before OC was passed. It is on shakier legal ground than carrying with a NR permit, because it has never been interpreted by a Court... and while it says "any other authority," and would seem to apply to anyone who the property owner has delegated any authority to whatsoever, it is certainly possible that the Court of Criminal Appeals could draw a stricter interpretation. </p><p></p><p>Your best bet is the NR route. CC carries a strong tactical advantage over OC, and would make it less likely for you to get crossways with the legal system again.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="henschman, post: 2783918, member: 4235"] I am an attorney who handles criminal matters. Unfortunately you are precluded from getting an Oklahoma handgun license by the SDA, and it is highly unlikely that anyone could get the SDA overturned on Constitutional grounds after [I]Heller. [/I] One option you have is to look for another State that issues non-resident permits, and doesn't have anything like the three-year rule. Oklahoma has full reciprocity with all other States' carry licenses, even when their provisions are less strict than Oklahoma's, so you would be good to go. I have a NR carry permit from Maine, which was very easy and cheap to get through the mail. No fingerprints required or anything. You just have to show proof of some sort of handgun safety training with live fire from a recognized organization or government agency. I would probably start by reading through Maine's carry laws and seeing if you are eligible. When it comes to your original question, regarding permitless OC as an employee, it comes down to the section about "any other authority," and hinges on whether as an employee you have any authority over the property you work at, and whether a court would construe it that way if you were prosecuted. This is what the employees of H&H in OKC did for years before OC was passed. It is on shakier legal ground than carrying with a NR permit, because it has never been interpreted by a Court... and while it says "any other authority," and would seem to apply to anyone who the property owner has delegated any authority to whatsoever, it is certainly possible that the Court of Criminal Appeals could draw a stricter interpretation. Your best bet is the NR route. CC carries a strong tactical advantage over OC, and would make it less likely for you to get crossways with the legal system again. [/QUOTE]
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