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<blockquote data-quote="DestructoJr" data-source="post: 1030883" data-attributes="member: 4479"><p>If I must.</p><p></p><p>Dallas Morning News Oct 29 2008</p><p> </p><p></p><p>Franklin star July 17 2008</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Kearns, Utah</p><p></p><p>From KUTV of May 8, 2008</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>After a brief search I found several, although not the exact scenario I had outlined, I think this demonstrates my point more clearly. In all of these scenarios we have a common element good guy gets gun taken away, then used on good guy by bad guy. In all of these situations the homeowner/shop keeper knew there was someone in their residence and went to confront them. So they were "ready" for a confrontation meaning they knew it was comming, </p><p></p><p>Lastly </p><p>***WARNING THE FOLLOWING LINK HAS 911 AUDIO FROM A POLICE OFFICER WHO WAS SHOT WITH HIS OWN GUN***</p><p></p><p>This link is to a recent incident that happened September 2009, the story is there. Its chilling.</p><p><a href="http://www.twincities.com/north/ci_14414609?nclick_check=1" target="_blank">http://www.twincities.com/north/ci_14414609?nclick_check=1</a></p><p></p><p>There are plenty of instances where the original gun owner gets their own gun taken away, and it even happens to Law Enforcement, while not a regular occurence it happens enough to not be a fluke or not something worth considering. I cannot testify to the training recieved by this Officer but typically wepon retention is tought in some fashion and usually brushed up on yearly with some in service training.</p><p></p><p>Put that same scenario anywhere with an untrained citizen who walks into the middle of a robbery or one meerly looking at merchandise in a store and someone sneaks up on them. Removes their wepon from whatever holster they carry and shoots them would not be too far fetched.</p><p></p><p>I don't think that open carry should be legal to protect people who can't protect themselves...ie they lack the common sense to not do such things. While I do agree I do not think it is the place of government to be all powerful and have supreme authority, I do feel it is a necessary evil. Unfortuneatly in the world of PC and Equal Opportunity a government agency or public entity cannot, discriminate against anyone simply because they lack common sense. Who would regulate who can and who cannot carry openly, what holsters should be authorised, what weapons.....I think a myraid of issues comes at hand when discussing open carry more than just "THE GUBBERNMENT CANT TELL ME WHAT TO DO!!!!" mentality and I would hope something with as serious implications should be considered fully and rationally. </p><p></p><p>Its Wolf, Lambs, and Sheepdogs</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DestructoJr, post: 1030883, member: 4479"] If I must. Dallas Morning News Oct 29 2008 Franklin star July 17 2008 Kearns, Utah From KUTV of May 8, 2008 After a brief search I found several, although not the exact scenario I had outlined, I think this demonstrates my point more clearly. In all of these scenarios we have a common element good guy gets gun taken away, then used on good guy by bad guy. In all of these situations the homeowner/shop keeper knew there was someone in their residence and went to confront them. So they were "ready" for a confrontation meaning they knew it was comming, Lastly ***WARNING THE FOLLOWING LINK HAS 911 AUDIO FROM A POLICE OFFICER WHO WAS SHOT WITH HIS OWN GUN*** This link is to a recent incident that happened September 2009, the story is there. Its chilling. [url]http://www.twincities.com/north/ci_14414609?nclick_check=1[/url] There are plenty of instances where the original gun owner gets their own gun taken away, and it even happens to Law Enforcement, while not a regular occurence it happens enough to not be a fluke or not something worth considering. I cannot testify to the training recieved by this Officer but typically wepon retention is tought in some fashion and usually brushed up on yearly with some in service training. Put that same scenario anywhere with an untrained citizen who walks into the middle of a robbery or one meerly looking at merchandise in a store and someone sneaks up on them. Removes their wepon from whatever holster they carry and shoots them would not be too far fetched. I don't think that open carry should be legal to protect people who can't protect themselves...ie they lack the common sense to not do such things. While I do agree I do not think it is the place of government to be all powerful and have supreme authority, I do feel it is a necessary evil. Unfortuneatly in the world of PC and Equal Opportunity a government agency or public entity cannot, discriminate against anyone simply because they lack common sense. Who would regulate who can and who cannot carry openly, what holsters should be authorised, what weapons.....I think a myraid of issues comes at hand when discussing open carry more than just "THE GUBBERNMENT CANT TELL ME WHAT TO DO!!!!" mentality and I would hope something with as serious implications should be considered fully and rationally. Its Wolf, Lambs, and Sheepdogs [/QUOTE]
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