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<blockquote data-quote="DestructoJr" data-source="post: 1031091" data-attributes="member: 4479"><p>You are right those werent about someone getting their open carried gun taken from them when they werent expecting it. As I stated earlier I think this expands upon the original idea that these weapons were taken away from people who had them out unholstered and ready to use. </p><p></p><p>I would be willing to wager if weapons can be taken away from the average citizen when they were pointing them at the BG it would be just as easy for a BG to remove a wepon from an unconcealed holster from a citizen who isn't expecting an attack, no matter where they are or what they are doing, buying stuff from a store, walking their dog...etc. They were about people prepared for a fight getting them taken away!!! What about someone who isn't paying attention, I think that its likely it would happen.</p><p></p><p>And as far as not knowing what the second amendment is about is an interesting statement. If you have read the federalist papers written mostly by Hamilton and Madison, and considered the time and context that the constitution was written easy inferences can be made about the context of citizens having a right to keep and bear arms. </p><p></p><p>Look at history and what the colonists and founding fathers were fighting. I think that amendment was written to secure peoples ability to defend themselves against tyrant governments. I dont have the time nor the fingers to type out an entire history lesson in an argument where you aren't going to change my mind. </p><p></p><p>I feel that open carry is a big mistake and to allow it would be irresponsible on behalf of gun owners everywhere.</p><p></p><p>As far as image of law abiding gun owning citizens is concerned, is there anything illegal about buying beer and cigarettes while armed...the answer is no there isn't however there is a stigma attached to it......I ask howcome...the same reason you dont want that to be the image associated with responsible gun ownership....the fact of the matter is if its not illegal there is nothing that can be done about it.</p><p></p><p>Back to the basics, Fact 1 people get firearms taken away from them citizens and officers alike.. Fact 2 BG's use those weapons against them, I dont see why we would want to make it any easier for people to put themselves in a potentially dangerous situation or pass laws that would enable a public nuisance. Care to think of how many calls the police would get about someone walking around with an openly displayed weapon, the cops would show up, prone the guy out, probably handcuff him and the whole nine yards. All this causing a scene and a disturbance that intereferece with commerce, commute, and daily life....all in all if you evaluate the Risk Vs. Reward of Open carry the Rewards dont out weigh the Risks.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DestructoJr, post: 1031091, member: 4479"] You are right those werent about someone getting their open carried gun taken from them when they werent expecting it. As I stated earlier I think this expands upon the original idea that these weapons were taken away from people who had them out unholstered and ready to use. I would be willing to wager if weapons can be taken away from the average citizen when they were pointing them at the BG it would be just as easy for a BG to remove a wepon from an unconcealed holster from a citizen who isn't expecting an attack, no matter where they are or what they are doing, buying stuff from a store, walking their dog...etc. They were about people prepared for a fight getting them taken away!!! What about someone who isn't paying attention, I think that its likely it would happen. And as far as not knowing what the second amendment is about is an interesting statement. If you have read the federalist papers written mostly by Hamilton and Madison, and considered the time and context that the constitution was written easy inferences can be made about the context of citizens having a right to keep and bear arms. Look at history and what the colonists and founding fathers were fighting. I think that amendment was written to secure peoples ability to defend themselves against tyrant governments. I dont have the time nor the fingers to type out an entire history lesson in an argument where you aren't going to change my mind. I feel that open carry is a big mistake and to allow it would be irresponsible on behalf of gun owners everywhere. As far as image of law abiding gun owning citizens is concerned, is there anything illegal about buying beer and cigarettes while armed...the answer is no there isn't however there is a stigma attached to it......I ask howcome...the same reason you dont want that to be the image associated with responsible gun ownership....the fact of the matter is if its not illegal there is nothing that can be done about it. Back to the basics, Fact 1 people get firearms taken away from them citizens and officers alike.. Fact 2 BG's use those weapons against them, I dont see why we would want to make it any easier for people to put themselves in a potentially dangerous situation or pass laws that would enable a public nuisance. Care to think of how many calls the police would get about someone walking around with an openly displayed weapon, the cops would show up, prone the guy out, probably handcuff him and the whole nine yards. All this causing a scene and a disturbance that intereferece with commerce, commute, and daily life....all in all if you evaluate the Risk Vs. Reward of Open carry the Rewards dont out weigh the Risks. [/QUOTE]
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