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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jakeman" data-source="post: 2303975" data-attributes="member: 10690">Forgiveness is easier to get than permission.This is how I make decisions; if I'm going to ask permission to do something that I'm going to do anyway regardless of if I'm given permission or told not to do it, I don't ask for permission.  If you ask permission, are told no, and then do it anyway, that's worse than just doing it in the first place without asking. You can always plead ignorance.<img src="/images/smilies/wink2.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wink2:" title="Wink2    :wink2:" data-shortname=":wink2:" />JMHO</blockquote>