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<blockquote data-quote="TulsaMike" data-source="post: 4198590" data-attributes="member: 49625"><p>My last 20 or so scopes have all been Nightforce ATACR in various magnifications, but before I got into extended long range and became an optics snob, I had no problems with the older Vortex PST (gen 1), leatherwood CMR, SWFA SS scopes (even the fixed power stuff), and even some leupold mk4 and lower end stuff. Once I learned how to shoot, the abilities and features of a scope just became something nice to have, instead of a requirement, and I’m a firm believer that if you NEED first focal plane, matched reticles, tons of whiz bang features, and a $3,000 plus price tag, it’s likely you aren’t a “good” shooter, you just buy expensive stuff and learned how to pull the trigger while your gear does the work for you. Since I can’t for the life of me find any long ranges here, I’ve switched to the Eotech optics and save a bunch of money, however I’m mostly buying them because I’m a snob, and not because I need them or have any justification for owning them anymore. </p><p></p><p>Expensive optics do make life much easier, but you can take a $300 scope with a good mount, ballistics calculator (or old fashioned hold overs) if the reticle and turrets don’t match, and still usually get to the limits of the rifle. I had a pretty tough time shooting 1100 yards with my buddies 5.56 rifle and a vortex viper hs-T (I think it was $399 new), but the scope and turrets were great, we were just reaching the limitations of my eyes and the quality of glass with a heavy mirage. He chose to sink all his money into the rifle and buy a cheap scope, but it still got he job done, just not as easy as my mk12 with a nightforce 4-16, which while it may have been the same accuracy, and I dialed in his ammo perfectly, I was on target much more quickly and could easily see my splashes if I missed, where as if he didn’t hear his hit, he really needed a spotter for corrections.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TulsaMike, post: 4198590, member: 49625"] My last 20 or so scopes have all been Nightforce ATACR in various magnifications, but before I got into extended long range and became an optics snob, I had no problems with the older Vortex PST (gen 1), leatherwood CMR, SWFA SS scopes (even the fixed power stuff), and even some leupold mk4 and lower end stuff. Once I learned how to shoot, the abilities and features of a scope just became something nice to have, instead of a requirement, and I’m a firm believer that if you NEED first focal plane, matched reticles, tons of whiz bang features, and a $3,000 plus price tag, it’s likely you aren’t a “good” shooter, you just buy expensive stuff and learned how to pull the trigger while your gear does the work for you. Since I can’t for the life of me find any long ranges here, I’ve switched to the Eotech optics and save a bunch of money, however I’m mostly buying them because I’m a snob, and not because I need them or have any justification for owning them anymore. Expensive optics do make life much easier, but you can take a $300 scope with a good mount, ballistics calculator (or old fashioned hold overs) if the reticle and turrets don’t match, and still usually get to the limits of the rifle. I had a pretty tough time shooting 1100 yards with my buddies 5.56 rifle and a vortex viper hs-T (I think it was $399 new), but the scope and turrets were great, we were just reaching the limitations of my eyes and the quality of glass with a heavy mirage. He chose to sink all his money into the rifle and buy a cheap scope, but it still got he job done, just not as easy as my mk12 with a nightforce 4-16, which while it may have been the same accuracy, and I dialed in his ammo perfectly, I was on target much more quickly and could easily see my splashes if I missed, where as if he didn’t hear his hit, he really needed a spotter for corrections. [/QUOTE]
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