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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ace_on_the_Turn" data-source="post: 2716881" data-attributes="member: 27417"><p>If were you objective, or at least being objective on this subject, I would be happy to answer the question. You are not. You are firmly entrenched in the us verse them camp. I use the terms conservative and liberal to describe an ideology. You use the term liberal with derision. As a punch line.  This thread is about the credibility, or lack of credibility, of Bill O'Reilly. If I say I turn to XXX news, the narrative will be become, yeah, O'Reilly has lied, but so does XXX news. Normally I'm all for an open debate but that simply is not what you're looking for.</p></blockquote><p></p>