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Message: <blockquote data-quote="RickN" data-source="post: 2036029" data-attributes="member: 8854">This is very true. I know a lot of people from the UK and Canada and they all say the same. As for the data, part of the difference is the way countries count deaths and the fact that so many of out younger people die in auto accidents, etc. Even infant deaths are counted differently. In the US if a baby is born and dies soon after, it is counted as an infant death. In most other countries it is counted as stillborn.I think once this mess fully kicks in and people start being denied treatment, even if willing to pay out of pocket because they are not good candidates you will see a huge backlash.I forgot to mention, there is another big stink going in the UK right now about the poor treatment of patients. Seems to many are being allowed to starve to death or die of thirst against doctors orders. Sometimes our doctors will withhold food and water if the patient is dying and feeding them is only prolonging their suffering and the family agrees, but these are people that are not. Same type situation we had with bad nursing homes 40 years ago.</blockquote>