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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Seadog" data-source="post: 3979999" data-attributes="member: 9018">I remember the 99 tornado. I hadn’t moved back to the state yet from my service. I do recall looking at a Survey magazine from that time that was about the tornado. What stuck in my head was some of the pictures. The fact not only were complete houses gone in neighborhoods but some of their foundations. Stripped away. I had no idea, and an F5 Nader could rip concrete slabs out the ground. I’ve been leery of these engineers claims ever since these above grounds have come out. I see them shooting two by fours out of potato guns to tout their strength. I remember when I was young living in Nebraska, a tornado putting a complete tractor truck on top of a local bank. Like a giant playing with toys. I wonder how well some of these concrete shelters would do with large debris slamming into it. You get 100 to 200 mile an hour winds and I don’t think that 2 x 4 is comparable to a several ton vehicle. I believe it was an F5 that went through Newcastle, Norman and Moore back in 2013. I watched that monster out my back door. It was about 5 miles off. It was so big and there was so much rain. You couldn’t really recognize it for what it really was.  It really just looked like a giant downpour a mile wide It really just looked like a giant downpour.  You would see the powerline flashes here and there throughout it. When I think of these things, I always think of tornadoes as direct hits. Not some thing off in the distance. I don’t wanna go to Kansas. I also know that getting hit by a tornado is extremely rare. At least when you figure 80ish fatalities out of 330 million yearly. Just my 2cents. I’m not overly trusting of these so-called engineers above ground shelters having seen the pictures that I mentioned from back in 1999.</blockquote>

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