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<blockquote data-quote="OK Corgi Rancher" data-source="post: 4106988" data-attributes="member: 45773"><p>When I was a cop I just assumed everyone was armed, for the most part. That doesn't mean I treated them as a problem, I just figured it was prudent to expect the unexpected. Besides, just because someone tells you they don't have a gun, doesn't mean they don't have a gun. In Colorado there was no requirement to inform an officer if you're armed unless asked. If I thought things might be headed in a direction where I was going to find out, I'd ask. But I'd still verify. And the handcuffs ALWAYS went on before anything else. Remember...they come off as easily as they go on.</p><p></p><p>When I was training rookies one thing that just chapped my butt was when the boot would ask someone if they had any illegal guns or drugs in the car. I explained that someone could answer "no" to that and not be lying. They might have a legal gun in the car. If you're going to ask, don't limit the question unnecessarily.</p><p></p><p>When I taught CCW classes from 2000 - 2015 I recommended people not inform the officer they were carrying unless asked. The reason being is some cops get really uptight when they know a person they're dealing with is armed. (You can avoid that uptight feeling by just assuming they are.) It changes the whole dynamic of a stop with some people.</p><p></p><p>I made a stop late one night (or early one morning, to be exact) on the main highway thru Aspen Park/Conifer. Once I turned on my overheads the guy kept driving to a very dark part of the highway...about 1/2 mile. As I cautiously approached his car he leaned his head out the window and yelled..."I HAVE A GUN!" I backpedaled to my car, got the 870 out and called for cover. Another deputy and a trooper responded and we got the guy out and introduced him to the pavement. After a lot of drama it turns out he was just trying to be "nice" and let me know he had a gun. I asked him why he screamed it like he did? He said he wanted to make sure I heard him. Well...I heard him.</p><p></p><p>Maybe I'm the odd man on this but I still recommend not mentioning a gun or handing the officer a permit unless he/she asks or unless it's required by your state's carry laws. Just because they say no, doesn't mean they're telling the truth. I've also had people mention one gun, but not the others they had in the car. You'd be surprised how many cops see a carry gun and just assume that's the only one.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="OK Corgi Rancher, post: 4106988, member: 45773"] When I was a cop I just assumed everyone was armed, for the most part. That doesn't mean I treated them as a problem, I just figured it was prudent to expect the unexpected. Besides, just because someone tells you they don't have a gun, doesn't mean they don't have a gun. In Colorado there was no requirement to inform an officer if you're armed unless asked. If I thought things might be headed in a direction where I was going to find out, I'd ask. But I'd still verify. And the handcuffs ALWAYS went on before anything else. Remember...they come off as easily as they go on. When I was training rookies one thing that just chapped my butt was when the boot would ask someone if they had any illegal guns or drugs in the car. I explained that someone could answer "no" to that and not be lying. They might have a legal gun in the car. If you're going to ask, don't limit the question unnecessarily. When I taught CCW classes from 2000 - 2015 I recommended people not inform the officer they were carrying unless asked. The reason being is some cops get really uptight when they know a person they're dealing with is armed. (You can avoid that uptight feeling by just assuming they are.) It changes the whole dynamic of a stop with some people. I made a stop late one night (or early one morning, to be exact) on the main highway thru Aspen Park/Conifer. Once I turned on my overheads the guy kept driving to a very dark part of the highway...about 1/2 mile. As I cautiously approached his car he leaned his head out the window and yelled..."I HAVE A GUN!" I backpedaled to my car, got the 870 out and called for cover. Another deputy and a trooper responded and we got the guy out and introduced him to the pavement. After a lot of drama it turns out he was just trying to be "nice" and let me know he had a gun. I asked him why he screamed it like he did? He said he wanted to make sure I heard him. Well...I heard him. Maybe I'm the odd man on this but I still recommend not mentioning a gun or handing the officer a permit unless he/she asks or unless it's required by your state's carry laws. Just because they say no, doesn't mean they're telling the truth. I've also had people mention one gun, but not the others they had in the car. You'd be surprised how many cops see a carry gun and just assume that's the only one. [/QUOTE]
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