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<blockquote data-quote="poopgiggle" data-source="post: 1328500" data-attributes="member: 6406"><p>I've been thinking about this since I started carrying.</p><p></p><p>Michael Brown wrote a great piece in the CCW forum about whether your defense gun is a viable tool in your hands, or if it's a talisman that you hope will ward off evil. I've seen Travis Haley talking about making sure you and your gun are an asset to society, rather than a liability.</p><p></p><p>My questions are as follows:</p><p></p><p>1. What do people think is due diligence for a concealed carrier, in terms of shooting skill? Is there an objective standard that people can work towards, like "should be able to do a Dozier Drill in under _ seconds"?</p><p></p><p>2. How do we encourage people who carry to maintain this level of proficiency?</p><p></p><p>The second is a tricky one. I think that people have an inalienable right to defend themselves, and putting a skill requirement on practicing an inalienable right is wrong (feel free to disagree with me on this). So, legally-required training is out. We can try to encourage training within the community but I think the proportion of gun owners who are serious enough to be part of the "shooting community" is pretty small.</p><p></p><p>Personally, I'd like to see a pistol-focused equivalent of the Appleseed Project, quality training at an accessible price that focused on responsible armed citizenship. I think that training citizens to be more responsible about self defense is in line with Appleseed's mission.</p><p></p><p>I'd also like to see more aggressive prosecution of improper use of concealed firearms (feel free to disagree with this too). I believe that personal responsibility is a two-sided coin: we recognize your right to carry a handgun, but using that right irresponsibly (drawing when you shouldn't, hitting innocent bystanders) will be punished.</p><p></p><p>I know this would be more properly placed in the CCW forum, but I wanted to get more eyeballs on this.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="poopgiggle, post: 1328500, member: 6406"] I've been thinking about this since I started carrying. Michael Brown wrote a great piece in the CCW forum about whether your defense gun is a viable tool in your hands, or if it's a talisman that you hope will ward off evil. I've seen Travis Haley talking about making sure you and your gun are an asset to society, rather than a liability. My questions are as follows: 1. What do people think is due diligence for a concealed carrier, in terms of shooting skill? Is there an objective standard that people can work towards, like "should be able to do a Dozier Drill in under _ seconds"? 2. How do we encourage people who carry to maintain this level of proficiency? The second is a tricky one. I think that people have an inalienable right to defend themselves, and putting a skill requirement on practicing an inalienable right is wrong (feel free to disagree with me on this). So, legally-required training is out. We can try to encourage training within the community but I think the proportion of gun owners who are serious enough to be part of the "shooting community" is pretty small. Personally, I'd like to see a pistol-focused equivalent of the Appleseed Project, quality training at an accessible price that focused on responsible armed citizenship. I think that training citizens to be more responsible about self defense is in line with Appleseed's mission. I'd also like to see more aggressive prosecution of improper use of concealed firearms (feel free to disagree with this too). I believe that personal responsibility is a two-sided coin: we recognize your right to carry a handgun, but using that right irresponsibly (drawing when you shouldn't, hitting innocent bystanders) will be punished. I know this would be more properly placed in the CCW forum, but I wanted to get more eyeballs on this. [/QUOTE]
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