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<blockquote data-quote="BryanDP" data-source="post: 3888146" data-attributes="member: 1111"><p>Since the last major change in Oklahoma law of 1984 which gave us liquor by the drink Oklahoma had two types of beer (low point or "non-intoxicating beverage" and high point, which was anything over 3.2% ABV) and three permits:</p><p></p><p>1. High point beer and wine (around $500 year state fee + up to $500 city fees )</p><p>2. High point beer, wine and spirits. (around $900 year state fee +up to $900 city fees.)</p><p>3. Low point beer ($75/year county license; no state or city fees.)</p><p></p><p>The first two licenses were regulated by the state via the ABLE Commission and often had restrictions on if/when/where they would be granted. Both the state (ABLE ) and the city had some say in this. The county was easy to obtain and I don't recall any restrictions on where you could sell.</p><p></p><p>For a full service bar, you would obviously need the second and third licenses if you wanted to sell everything that people wanted ("import" beers which were largely "high point" along with all the "domestics" like Bud, Coors, Miller, etc. that were all "low point." </p><p></p><p>For a beer bar serving just the low point beer one would just need the county permit which is a LOT cheaper than even the beer and wind permit.</p><p></p><p>A few years back (maybe 2018?) the liquor laws changed a lot in Oklahoma and one of the biggest changes was that you could buy refrigerated high point beer in liquor stores as well as grocery and convenience stores. Previously grocery and convenience stores could only sell low point beer and liquor stores could NOT sell low point. This effectively ended the need for low point beer. </p><p></p><p>I'm not sure if the low point county license even still exists but the product isn't readily available so that could be a factor in the demise of a beer bar. It seems odd that someone would close their business rather than go from a $75 to $500 per year license but it may be the owner didn't want to mess with ABLE (they aren't fun) or the location wasn't eligible to get a state liquor license.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BryanDP, post: 3888146, member: 1111"] Since the last major change in Oklahoma law of 1984 which gave us liquor by the drink Oklahoma had two types of beer (low point or "non-intoxicating beverage" and high point, which was anything over 3.2% ABV) and three permits: 1. High point beer and wine (around $500 year state fee + up to $500 city fees ) 2. High point beer, wine and spirits. (around $900 year state fee +up to $900 city fees.) 3. Low point beer ($75/year county license; no state or city fees.) The first two licenses were regulated by the state via the ABLE Commission and often had restrictions on if/when/where they would be granted. Both the state (ABLE ) and the city had some say in this. The county was easy to obtain and I don't recall any restrictions on where you could sell. For a full service bar, you would obviously need the second and third licenses if you wanted to sell everything that people wanted ("import" beers which were largely "high point" along with all the "domestics" like Bud, Coors, Miller, etc. that were all "low point." For a beer bar serving just the low point beer one would just need the county permit which is a LOT cheaper than even the beer and wind permit. A few years back (maybe 2018?) the liquor laws changed a lot in Oklahoma and one of the biggest changes was that you could buy refrigerated high point beer in liquor stores as well as grocery and convenience stores. Previously grocery and convenience stores could only sell low point beer and liquor stores could NOT sell low point. This effectively ended the need for low point beer. I'm not sure if the low point county license even still exists but the product isn't readily available so that could be a factor in the demise of a beer bar. It seems odd that someone would close their business rather than go from a $75 to $500 per year license but it may be the owner didn't want to mess with ABLE (they aren't fun) or the location wasn't eligible to get a state liquor license. [/QUOTE]
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