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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shadowrider" data-source="post: 1486023" data-attributes="member: 3099">There's really no rhyme or reason.  Well there's a reason and I think it's lawyers.  LOL!My Hornady manual for .357 magnum w/158XTP bullet has a max charge of 13.1 grains of VV N110 powder.Now the VV manual states that a beginning charge of that same powder with that same exact bullet is 15.1 grains.  <img src="/images/smilies/headscratch.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":scratch:" title="Headscratch    :scratch:" data-shortname=":scratch:" />Both of these are the current version manuals, BTW.  But yes the old manuals are generally hotter, but remember that pressure testing has came along way since then.</blockquote>