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Polygraph Sting: Free Speech or Criminal Conduct?
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<blockquote data-quote="Hobbes" data-source="post: 2660234" data-attributes="member: 3371"><p>Interesting question here.</p><p>Does teaching someone how to successfully pass a polygraph test equate to criminal conduct?</p><p>Keep in mind, a federal court has already ruled that blinking your lights to warn others of approaching police radar is free speech.</p><p>We will put aside the question of entrapment for the moment.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>A former Oklahoma City police officer has been indicted on federal charges of witness tampering and mail fraud, accused of helping people fraudulently pass polygraph tests.</p><p></p><p>Douglas G. Williams, 69, of Norman, was indicted Friday in Oklahoma City federal court on two counts of mail fraud and three counts of witness tampering.</p><p> Williams owns and operates <a href="http://polygraph.com/" target="_blank">polygraph.com</a>, a website which purports that even innocent people can fail polygraph tests, also known as lie detectors, and provides counsel on how to pass them.</p><p></p><p> Williams has two books available for sale, one of which is called How To Sting the Polygraph. The other is titled From Cop To Crusader.</p><p> Williams said he was an Oklahoma City police officer from 1969-79 and headed up the polygraph division of the departments internal affairs division. He said that he left the department at the rank of detective sergeant.</p><p></p><p> Police personnel records for Williams werent available Friday.</p><p></p><p> This is a blatant attack on my First Amendment right to free speech as evidenced by the statements made by the customs and border patrol internal agent who headed up this investigation, Williams said.</p><p></p><p> Williams said he could not comment further, at the request of his attorney.</p><p> The indictments were filed after two undercover operations into Williams business, one in 2012 and the other in 2013.</p><p></p><p>During the first undercover operation, a law officer told him that he was an airport inspector for homeland security accused of allowing a friend to pass through customs with contraband, according to the indictment.</p><p> The undercover law officer reportedly told Williams that he was lying, and after initially saying he would not help, met the undercover officer and exchanged training for money.</p><p></p><p> The second undercover law officer told Williams that he was a sheriffs deputy in Virginia who was attempting to be hired as a border patrol agent.</p><p> At one point, Williams reportedly told him, I can train you how to pass if youre lying, court records show. The rest of the quote, along with many others in the indictment, are expletive-laden.</p><p></p><p> The second undercover officer met Williams at his rented office in Norman for training in exchange for money. During the meeting, the officer admitted to smuggling cocaine into a jail for an inmate and having some sort of illicit sexual contact with a high school student, the indictment states.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://newsok.com/court-indicts-former-oklahoma-city-police-officer-on-witness-tampering-mail-fraud-charges/article/5366968" target="_blank">http://newsok.com/court-indicts-former-oklahoma-city-police-officer-on-witness-tampering-mail-fraud-charges/article/5366968</a></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is the guy's website</p><p><a href="http://polygraph.com/" target="_blank">http://polygraph.com/</a></p><p></p><p>This is the text of the DOJ press release</p><p><a href="http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/owner-polygraph-indicted-allegedly-training-customers-lir-during-federally-administered" target="_blank">http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/owner-polygraph-indicted-allegedly-training-customers-lir-during-federally-administered</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hobbes, post: 2660234, member: 3371"] Interesting question here. Does teaching someone how to successfully pass a polygraph test equate to criminal conduct? Keep in mind, a federal court has already ruled that blinking your lights to warn others of approaching police radar is free speech. We will put aside the question of entrapment for the moment. A former Oklahoma City police officer has been indicted on federal charges of witness tampering and mail fraud, accused of helping people fraudulently pass polygraph tests. Douglas G. Williams, 69, of Norman, was indicted Friday in Oklahoma City federal court on two counts of mail fraud and three counts of witness tampering. Williams owns and operates [URL="http://polygraph.com/"]polygraph.com[/URL], a website which purports that even innocent people can fail polygraph tests, also known as lie detectors, and provides counsel on how to pass them. Williams has two books available for sale, one of which is called How To Sting the Polygraph. The other is titled From Cop To Crusader. Williams said he was an Oklahoma City police officer from 1969-79 and headed up the polygraph division of the departments internal affairs division. He said that he left the department at the rank of detective sergeant. Police personnel records for Williams werent available Friday. This is a blatant attack on my First Amendment right to free speech as evidenced by the statements made by the customs and border patrol internal agent who headed up this investigation, Williams said. Williams said he could not comment further, at the request of his attorney. The indictments were filed after two undercover operations into Williams business, one in 2012 and the other in 2013. During the first undercover operation, a law officer told him that he was an airport inspector for homeland security accused of allowing a friend to pass through customs with contraband, according to the indictment. The undercover law officer reportedly told Williams that he was lying, and after initially saying he would not help, met the undercover officer and exchanged training for money. The second undercover law officer told Williams that he was a sheriffs deputy in Virginia who was attempting to be hired as a border patrol agent. At one point, Williams reportedly told him, I can train you how to pass if youre lying, court records show. The rest of the quote, along with many others in the indictment, are expletive-laden. The second undercover officer met Williams at his rented office in Norman for training in exchange for money. During the meeting, the officer admitted to smuggling cocaine into a jail for an inmate and having some sort of illicit sexual contact with a high school student, the indictment states. [URL]http://newsok.com/court-indicts-former-oklahoma-city-police-officer-on-witness-tampering-mail-fraud-charges/article/5366968[/URL] This is the guy's website [URL]http://polygraph.com/[/URL] This is the text of the DOJ press release [URL]http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/owner-polygraph-indicted-allegedly-training-customers-lir-during-federally-administered[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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