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<blockquote data-quote="pistolguy" data-source="post: 2223225" data-attributes="member: 30479"><p>What I've always wondered about preppers, is how they plan to use a gun that they don't have with them, and where they get the crystal ball that tells them when it's ok to only have a scoped bolt action, only have a .22, only have a shotgun, etc? Do you realize that if shtf, everyone who lasts more than a week will be carrying a longarm? So a pistol won't amount to a hoot, and every shot fired is likely to draw in your killer? If shtf, the lifestock and grain will be looted/eaten by dogs, etc, within 2 weeks, the game will be gone in another few weeks. Nobody will dare be out in daylight, hunting, because there will be millons of people who will shoot yu on sight, to get rid of you as competition/threat, or to take your stuff. You also won't dare not always be carrying about 40 lbs of other survival gear. So carrying more than one rifle and maybe a compact, lw pistol, and a bit of ammo is all that's feasible.</p><p></p><p>If you find the ammo, probably lying beside a dead man, why would the gun for that caliber not be there also, hmm? Why do you think that you will survive losing your "main gun", and still be able to acquire another one? In reality, if you have more "gunfights" than a very few, close, quick ambushes, with the odds stacked your way quite heavily, you are doing too many things incorrectly, and you probably wont make it.</p><p></p><p>If you aren't really sneaky and ready to fight, somebody else will be eating your beans. cans may be opened by just rubbing the flat side of the can on a pc of flat concrete, or opened with a knife. Not having a can opener is a non-issue.</p><p></p><p>There's billions and billions of rds of .22lr in the US, and almost as many rds of 223 in the military armories. If you seal the ammo in GI ammo cans, it lasts just fine for 50 years or more. So why would you worry about running out? The game will be all gone in a month, if shtf. the dog packs and starving people will see to that. You wont dare practice, because every (non silenced) shot will attract the attention of enemies. No place in the lower 48 states is more than 24 hour's motorcycle ride (and maybe a day's walk, too) from urban areads. It's very easy to mount 5 jerry cans of gas on a bike, 5 gallons each. At 40 mpg, that means 1000 miles of range. During 1000 miles,of travel, they are going to find more gas, in tractors, farmer's combines, etc.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pistolguy, post: 2223225, member: 30479"] What I've always wondered about preppers, is how they plan to use a gun that they don't have with them, and where they get the crystal ball that tells them when it's ok to only have a scoped bolt action, only have a .22, only have a shotgun, etc? Do you realize that if shtf, everyone who lasts more than a week will be carrying a longarm? So a pistol won't amount to a hoot, and every shot fired is likely to draw in your killer? If shtf, the lifestock and grain will be looted/eaten by dogs, etc, within 2 weeks, the game will be gone in another few weeks. Nobody will dare be out in daylight, hunting, because there will be millons of people who will shoot yu on sight, to get rid of you as competition/threat, or to take your stuff. You also won't dare not always be carrying about 40 lbs of other survival gear. So carrying more than one rifle and maybe a compact, lw pistol, and a bit of ammo is all that's feasible. If you find the ammo, probably lying beside a dead man, why would the gun for that caliber not be there also, hmm? Why do you think that you will survive losing your "main gun", and still be able to acquire another one? In reality, if you have more "gunfights" than a very few, close, quick ambushes, with the odds stacked your way quite heavily, you are doing too many things incorrectly, and you probably wont make it. If you aren't really sneaky and ready to fight, somebody else will be eating your beans. cans may be opened by just rubbing the flat side of the can on a pc of flat concrete, or opened with a knife. Not having a can opener is a non-issue. There's billions and billions of rds of .22lr in the US, and almost as many rds of 223 in the military armories. If you seal the ammo in GI ammo cans, it lasts just fine for 50 years or more. So why would you worry about running out? The game will be all gone in a month, if shtf. the dog packs and starving people will see to that. You wont dare practice, because every (non silenced) shot will attract the attention of enemies. No place in the lower 48 states is more than 24 hour's motorcycle ride (and maybe a day's walk, too) from urban areads. It's very easy to mount 5 jerry cans of gas on a bike, 5 gallons each. At 40 mpg, that means 1000 miles of range. During 1000 miles,of travel, they are going to find more gas, in tractors, farmer's combines, etc. [/QUOTE]
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