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Message: <blockquote data-quote="wolfkpr" data-source="post: 3928941" data-attributes="member: 38471">There are folks who use frangible bullets like the ballistic tip, vmax, etc- but I dont. There are 2 reasons to use tougher bullets- 1- to get an exit. Even with .30 cal- sometimes deer run 50 or 100 yds- with no exit, and the only hole being the smallbore entry- finding them can be a challenge. At least with an exit- you have a ( bigger) hole for them to bleed from.  Reason 2- to reach vitals even through a shoulder. ( sure you have the option of passing on any shot, quartering etc- that involves the shoulder- but why would you?) using a bullet that will go through a shoulder, bone included, and still penetrate vitals and hopefully exit, ( on the biggest deer you might encounter) just makes sense. I do think bullets like the powerpoint, 65gr gameking, and partition ( where you get up to 40% fragmentation and expansion close to .5”) may have better odds of instant knockdown, but a monolithic like a Barnes, gmx, etc- is more likely to get an exit, even with shoulder involvement.</blockquote>