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<blockquote data-quote="BikerHT" data-source="post: 2099215" data-attributes="member: 24483"><p>Well let me share something I ran across recently...</p><p></p><p><strong>10 Reasons Why America is Already in a Civil War</strong></p><p>Before the shooting war ever began in 1861, America was already at war with itself. The North and South jockeyed for position before the outbreak of hostilities, people's loyalties were divided and states were taking sides. This time its alittle different in that while states aren't looking to seperate from the union, yet, they are defying the federal government in other ways. People too are taking a stand, households are divided, split between pro-gun and pro-ban folks. LIberals and consevatives. America is already in a civil war and here are ten reasons why:</p><p><strong>1. VIRGINIA PLANNING ITS OWN CURRENCY</strong></p><p>The Commonwealth of Virginia is examining what it would take to have a “plan B” currency ready to go in the event of a Federal Reserve meltdown.</p><p>“My purpose is to have a Plan B,” he said, so Virginians would still be able to conduct commerce without using greenbacks.</p><p><strong>2. 200+ SHERIFFS SAY NO TO OBAMA GUN LAWS</strong></p><p><strong>3. SAN DIEGO POLICE CHIEF: WE CAN DISARM AMERICANS IN A GENERATION</strong></p><p>San Diego Police Chief William Lansdowne is fully supportive of the Obama/Feinstein gun grab, and says if lawmakers play it right Americans can be completely disarmed within "a generation."</p><p>Lansdowne has gone on record saying: "I could not be more supportive of the president for taking the position he has. I think it's courageous with the politics involved in this process. [And] I think it's going to eventually make the country safer."</p><p><strong>4. OBAMA ASKS MILITARY LEADERS IF THEY WILL FIRE ON AMERICAN CITIZENS</strong></p><p>"I have just been informed by a former senior military leader that Obama is using a new "litmus test" in determining who will stay and who must go in his military leaders. Get ready to explode folks. "The new litmus test of leadership in the military is if they will fire on US citizens or not". Those who will not are being removed," Garrow wrote on his Facebook page, later following up the post by adding the man who told him is, "one of America's foremost military heroes," whose goal in divulging the information was to "sound the alarm."</p><p><strong>5. UTAH SHERIFFS PREPARED TO DIE FOR 2ND AMENDMENT</strong></p><p>We respect the Office of the President of the United States of America. But, make no mistake, as the duly-elected sheriffs of our respective counties, we will enforce the rights guaranteed to our citizens by the Constitution. No federal official will be permitted to descend upon our constituents and take from them what the Bill of Rights-in particular Amendment II-has given them. We, like you, swore a solemn oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, and we are prepared to trade our lives for the preservation of its traditional interpretation.</p><p><strong>6. S.C. BILL WOULD NULIFY ANY EO's AGAINST 2ND AMENDMENT</strong></p><p>Senator Davis has filed SB 224 which is a Joint Resolution to Nullify Executive Orders infringing upon the second amendment, and the right to keep and bear arms. This Joint Resolution has been referred to the Senate Committee of Judiciary.</p><p>SB 224 states, “Any federal executive order restricting, abridging, or otherwise infringing upon the free exercise of a citizen’s second amendment right to keep and bear arms is unconstitutional and shall not be enforced by any federal, state, or local law enforcement agency within South Carolina.”</p><p><strong>7. MISSOURI BILL WOULD JAIL FEDS FOR VIOLATING 2ND AMENDMENT</strong></p><p>Introduced by Missouri State Representative Casey Guernsey, with 61 co-sponsors, is the Missouri 2nd Amendment Preservation Act. House Bill 170 (HB170) would nullify any and all federal acts, orders, laws, statutes, rules, or regulations of the federal government on personal firearms, firearm accessories, and ammunition.</p><p><strong>8. OVER 1000 GREEN BERETS SIGN LETTER SUPPORTING 2ND AMENDMENT</strong></p><p>Over 1000 Green Berets have signed a letter re-asserting their oath to support and defend the Constitution by protecting the second amendment rights of American citizens.</p><p>The letter, which originally featured at ProfessionalSoldiers.com, was written by "current or former Army Reserve, National Guard, and active duty US Army Special Forces soldiers."</p><p><strong>9. WYOMING LOOKS TO BAN FEDERAL GUN BANS</strong></p><p>Dismayed by the Obama administration’s push to reform the nation’s gun laws, state lawmakers in Wyoming are proposing legislation designed to protect gun owners from gun bans, like the one Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) introduced into the Senate last week.</p><p>Called the “Firearms Protection Act,” the bill is essentially a ban on federal gun bans.</p><p><strong>10. MOST AMERICANS SUPPORT GUN BAN; MOST GUN OWNERS DO NOT</strong></p><p>A majority of Americans support strong, new gun control measures-including the assault weapons bans and broader background checks, according to a new ABC/Washington Post poll released Tuesday. The findings found broader support for gun control in the wake of the elementary school shooting in Newtown, Conn., with 52% of people saying they supported further gun restrictions since the shooting. Source The Fox poll interviewed more than 1,000 registered voters in mid-January on a wide range of issues, most of which were related to firearms and the Second Amendment. According to the results, more than half of all respondents said there was at least one gun in their household - and the numbers have been steadily rising over previous years. Another five percent did not know whether there were guns in their home, or they were not willing to answer the question.</p><p>Among the 52 percent of respondents who admitted to having a gun in their household, the overwhelming majority said they would defy any “law” purporting to require the surrender of firearms. An astonishing two thirds said outright that they would defy the unconstitutional pretended act of legislation. Some 13 percent were not sure, and just 22 percent said they would give up their guns or submit.</p><p>The more the government tries to push a gun ban, the worse these things will get. They are not the only reason either, the government is increasingly looking at Americans as threats, especially regular joes with guns, veterans and anybody with an opinion enough that doesn't chime with government tone. The DHS is buyings guns and ammo by the thousands, they have labeled gun owners as terrorists and seem to preparing for hostilities to break out inside the United States. Not to mention the fact that Obama now has absolute power to make you disappear into oblivion or outright kill you and not have to tell anybody about it. Slowly but surely the government has eroded your freedoms and liberty. It is my sincere hope that Americans will wake up to the increasing boot in their faces. I leave you with some words from a man who once said, 'give me liberty or give me death'.</p><p></p><p>It looks to me like the answer to the OP's question would be - "Yes."</p><p>[ATTACH]27012[/ATTACH]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BikerHT, post: 2099215, member: 24483"] Well let me share something I ran across recently... [B]10 Reasons Why America is Already in a Civil War[/B] Before the shooting war ever began in 1861, America was already at war with itself. The North and South jockeyed for position before the outbreak of hostilities, people's loyalties were divided and states were taking sides. This time its alittle different in that while states aren't looking to seperate from the union, yet, they are defying the federal government in other ways. People too are taking a stand, households are divided, split between pro-gun and pro-ban folks. LIberals and consevatives. America is already in a civil war and here are ten reasons why: [B]1. VIRGINIA PLANNING ITS OWN CURRENCY[/B] The Commonwealth of Virginia is examining what it would take to have a “plan B” currency ready to go in the event of a Federal Reserve meltdown. “My purpose is to have a Plan B,” he said, so Virginians would still be able to conduct commerce without using greenbacks. [B]2. 200+ SHERIFFS SAY NO TO OBAMA GUN LAWS 3. SAN DIEGO POLICE CHIEF: WE CAN DISARM AMERICANS IN A GENERATION[/B] San Diego Police Chief William Lansdowne is fully supportive of the Obama/Feinstein gun grab, and says if lawmakers play it right Americans can be completely disarmed within "a generation." Lansdowne has gone on record saying: "I could not be more supportive of the president for taking the position he has. I think it's courageous with the politics involved in this process. [And] I think it's going to eventually make the country safer." [B]4. OBAMA ASKS MILITARY LEADERS IF THEY WILL FIRE ON AMERICAN CITIZENS[/B] "I have just been informed by a former senior military leader that Obama is using a new "litmus test" in determining who will stay and who must go in his military leaders. Get ready to explode folks. "The new litmus test of leadership in the military is if they will fire on US citizens or not". Those who will not are being removed," Garrow wrote on his Facebook page, later following up the post by adding the man who told him is, "one of America's foremost military heroes," whose goal in divulging the information was to "sound the alarm." [B]5. UTAH SHERIFFS PREPARED TO DIE FOR 2ND AMENDMENT[/B] We respect the Office of the President of the United States of America. But, make no mistake, as the duly-elected sheriffs of our respective counties, we will enforce the rights guaranteed to our citizens by the Constitution. No federal official will be permitted to descend upon our constituents and take from them what the Bill of Rights-in particular Amendment II-has given them. We, like you, swore a solemn oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, and we are prepared to trade our lives for the preservation of its traditional interpretation. [B]6. S.C. BILL WOULD NULIFY ANY EO's AGAINST 2ND AMENDMENT[/B] Senator Davis has filed SB 224 which is a Joint Resolution to Nullify Executive Orders infringing upon the second amendment, and the right to keep and bear arms. This Joint Resolution has been referred to the Senate Committee of Judiciary. SB 224 states, “Any federal executive order restricting, abridging, or otherwise infringing upon the free exercise of a citizen’s second amendment right to keep and bear arms is unconstitutional and shall not be enforced by any federal, state, or local law enforcement agency within South Carolina.” [B]7. MISSOURI BILL WOULD JAIL FEDS FOR VIOLATING 2ND AMENDMENT[/B] Introduced by Missouri State Representative Casey Guernsey, with 61 co-sponsors, is the Missouri 2nd Amendment Preservation Act. House Bill 170 (HB170) would nullify any and all federal acts, orders, laws, statutes, rules, or regulations of the federal government on personal firearms, firearm accessories, and ammunition. [B]8. OVER 1000 GREEN BERETS SIGN LETTER SUPPORTING 2ND AMENDMENT[/B] Over 1000 Green Berets have signed a letter re-asserting their oath to support and defend the Constitution by protecting the second amendment rights of American citizens. The letter, which originally featured at ProfessionalSoldiers.com, was written by "current or former Army Reserve, National Guard, and active duty US Army Special Forces soldiers." [B]9. WYOMING LOOKS TO BAN FEDERAL GUN BANS[/B] Dismayed by the Obama administration’s push to reform the nation’s gun laws, state lawmakers in Wyoming are proposing legislation designed to protect gun owners from gun bans, like the one Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) introduced into the Senate last week. Called the “Firearms Protection Act,” the bill is essentially a ban on federal gun bans. [B]10. MOST AMERICANS SUPPORT GUN BAN; MOST GUN OWNERS DO NOT[/B] A majority of Americans support strong, new gun control measures-including the assault weapons bans and broader background checks, according to a new ABC/Washington Post poll released Tuesday. The findings found broader support for gun control in the wake of the elementary school shooting in Newtown, Conn., with 52% of people saying they supported further gun restrictions since the shooting. Source The Fox poll interviewed more than 1,000 registered voters in mid-January on a wide range of issues, most of which were related to firearms and the Second Amendment. According to the results, more than half of all respondents said there was at least one gun in their household - and the numbers have been steadily rising over previous years. Another five percent did not know whether there were guns in their home, or they were not willing to answer the question. Among the 52 percent of respondents who admitted to having a gun in their household, the overwhelming majority said they would defy any “law” purporting to require the surrender of firearms. An astonishing two thirds said outright that they would defy the unconstitutional pretended act of legislation. Some 13 percent were not sure, and just 22 percent said they would give up their guns or submit. The more the government tries to push a gun ban, the worse these things will get. They are not the only reason either, the government is increasingly looking at Americans as threats, especially regular joes with guns, veterans and anybody with an opinion enough that doesn't chime with government tone. The DHS is buyings guns and ammo by the thousands, they have labeled gun owners as terrorists and seem to preparing for hostilities to break out inside the United States. Not to mention the fact that Obama now has absolute power to make you disappear into oblivion or outright kill you and not have to tell anybody about it. Slowly but surely the government has eroded your freedoms and liberty. It is my sincere hope that Americans will wake up to the increasing boot in their faces. I leave you with some words from a man who once said, 'give me liberty or give me death'. It looks to me like the answer to the OP's question would be - "Yes." [ATTACH=CONFIG]27012[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]
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