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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cowbaby" data-source="post: 3556480" data-attributes="member: 46875">Don't let these guys discourage you with all this absolute malarky for what can be a very rewarding experience. You don't have to go all in and set up a Dillon 750 straight out of the box. Or tell you that you cannot produce reasonably accurate and low cost ammo for what you stated you need. A 9 in the average guys hands is a 40 yard gun and handloading can easily produce rounds that are sufficient for that and get you tune up to where you can be better than that. Your only going to get so much out of 4' barrel or auto.I listed the bare minimum you would need to produce some practice and home defense rounds for a pistol. You can add things like a case trimmer, neck turning or a 5 dollar pocket deburring tool and such as you go to produce better stuff as you learn.Not everyone needs or even wants a chronograph to verify and make them feel good. Some of my pet loads I have used for years are probably slightly slower than what comes out of a factory. Some of them will smoke them off the map. I could care less, I have a pretty good idea and know where they shoot. I'm using mine to hunt with and I would put a couple of them up against anyone here. Guys loading to enter competitions have to go to another level to compete but that is not what you stated you wanted to do.Telling people they will fail before they start has to be the dumbest thing I have heard all day and I work with some real idiots.You can produce ammo that is better than any factory stuff for your particular rifle or pistol without filling up an entire loading room and a LOT cheaper if that is your goal. I have done it for 35yrs but I am so tight I squeak.</blockquote>

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