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<blockquote data-quote="Shadowrider" data-source="post: 3560051" data-attributes="member: 3099"><p>[USER=24429]@O4L[/USER], This right here is one of several reasons why reloading now isn't like it was in the old days. Frankly there is a lot of crimped brass out there these days, even some non-NATO stamped brass is crimped and it makes it pretty frustrating and also adds a step between sizing and priming. IMO, you just about have to have a swaging tool of some sort or you are going to be throwing away perfectly usable brass and ruining primers at .10c apiece when they used to cost .01c. Just in the last few years have they jumped to .03-.035c each as being the "new normal". When I started they cost a penny apiece and it was that way for years. OK I'll stop ranting on this now. <img src="/images/smilies/new/blush2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":blush:" title="Blush2 :blush:" data-shortname=":blush:" /></p><p></p><p>As others have mentioned it just depends on how you value your time. Only a 1-1.5 years ago it was damned hard to justify loading even range fodder 9mm ammo unless you were loading at least 2-3 thousand or more of them at a time. Nobody does that on a single stage. At least no sane person that is. I loaded up a small run of .380 on a Redding turret press which is faster and a step between a single stage and a fully loaded Dillon progressive. I didn't have to deal with swaged primers and it was still mind numbingly monotonous and time consuming. A single stage press is great for learning the process and small lot loading and they are workhorses, but loading 20-100 rounds of precision rifle ammo is a completely different animal than loading 500 or more rounds of pistol ammo. If you don't need to put a dollar value on your time involved it could be worth it to load your own. And right now it still may be depending on the quantity you need to load. For 1000 rounds I'd not be starting into reloading right now, but that's just me. If 9mm ever gets back to $169 per 1k of decent FMJ like it was in the recent past you may never recoup your costs unless you start shooting a lot more. <img src="/images/smilies/twocents.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":twocents:" title="Twocents :twocents:" data-shortname=":twocents:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shadowrider, post: 3560051, member: 3099"] [USER=24429]@O4L[/USER], This right here is one of several reasons why reloading now isn't like it was in the old days. Frankly there is a lot of crimped brass out there these days, even some non-NATO stamped brass is crimped and it makes it pretty frustrating and also adds a step between sizing and priming. IMO, you just about have to have a swaging tool of some sort or you are going to be throwing away perfectly usable brass and ruining primers at .10c apiece when they used to cost .01c. Just in the last few years have they jumped to .03-.035c each as being the "new normal". When I started they cost a penny apiece and it was that way for years. OK I'll stop ranting on this now. :blush: As others have mentioned it just depends on how you value your time. Only a 1-1.5 years ago it was damned hard to justify loading even range fodder 9mm ammo unless you were loading at least 2-3 thousand or more of them at a time. Nobody does that on a single stage. At least no sane person that is. I loaded up a small run of .380 on a Redding turret press which is faster and a step between a single stage and a fully loaded Dillon progressive. I didn't have to deal with swaged primers and it was still mind numbingly monotonous and time consuming. A single stage press is great for learning the process and small lot loading and they are workhorses, but loading 20-100 rounds of precision rifle ammo is a completely different animal than loading 500 or more rounds of pistol ammo. If you don't need to put a dollar value on your time involved it could be worth it to load your own. And right now it still may be depending on the quantity you need to load. For 1000 rounds I'd not be starting into reloading right now, but that's just me. If 9mm ever gets back to $169 per 1k of decent FMJ like it was in the recent past you may never recoup your costs unless you start shooting a lot more. :twocents: [/QUOTE]
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