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<blockquote data-quote="dennishoddy" data-source="post: 3410811" data-attributes="member: 5412"><p>Shotguns with a limited range of birdshot over the berms is not a fair comparison to a bullet that can travel several miles. You said you've witnessed bullets hitting the top of the berms, how many went over the top you didn't see? </p><p>I can assure you our range in Ponca has addressed this issue multiple times. </p><p>Our pistol bays are on the North shooting South with 20' tall berms on three sides. The rifle bays are on the South side with shooting to the North, sharing opposite sides of the berms. Shooters on both sides have reported hearing bullets leaving the range. When we look into it, there is typically someone that has taken one of the steel challenge plates and leaned it up against the berm instead of hanging it on a range provided target stand where it has a downward slope so the splatter goes down and not up, or have been shooting at golf balls on the flat ground on the pistol bays. </p><p>I personally heard rifle rounds going over the berm while shooting pistol one day. I went to the rifle bay and saw some guys had set steel targets on the ground 10' away from the berm which is against range rules. The rounds were hitting short of the plates skipping up to hit the top of the plates and consequently going over the top of the berm. </p><p>Range rules against doing that are for a reason. It's a safety reason for those that are not in the range but may be riding a tractor a mile away or walking a field. </p><p>The liability of a tragic accident like that would likely have that range shut down.</p><p>I'm not addressing you with the following comments, but just a general statement from someone that has had to deal with this issue for many years now to no one specific. </p><p>If you want to shoot junk, zombie stuff, golf balls, roller targets, etc, go buy some land and set up your own range. Don't do this on public or private ranges where it's not allowed. You run the chance of losing that range. One persons stupid act can cause hundreds to lose their shooting area. The rules are there for a reason.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dennishoddy, post: 3410811, member: 5412"] Shotguns with a limited range of birdshot over the berms is not a fair comparison to a bullet that can travel several miles. You said you've witnessed bullets hitting the top of the berms, how many went over the top you didn't see? I can assure you our range in Ponca has addressed this issue multiple times. Our pistol bays are on the North shooting South with 20' tall berms on three sides. The rifle bays are on the South side with shooting to the North, sharing opposite sides of the berms. Shooters on both sides have reported hearing bullets leaving the range. When we look into it, there is typically someone that has taken one of the steel challenge plates and leaned it up against the berm instead of hanging it on a range provided target stand where it has a downward slope so the splatter goes down and not up, or have been shooting at golf balls on the flat ground on the pistol bays. I personally heard rifle rounds going over the berm while shooting pistol one day. I went to the rifle bay and saw some guys had set steel targets on the ground 10' away from the berm which is against range rules. The rounds were hitting short of the plates skipping up to hit the top of the plates and consequently going over the top of the berm. Range rules against doing that are for a reason. It's a safety reason for those that are not in the range but may be riding a tractor a mile away or walking a field. The liability of a tragic accident like that would likely have that range shut down. I'm not addressing you with the following comments, but just a general statement from someone that has had to deal with this issue for many years now to no one specific. If you want to shoot junk, zombie stuff, golf balls, roller targets, etc, go buy some land and set up your own range. Don't do this on public or private ranges where it's not allowed. You run the chance of losing that range. One persons stupid act can cause hundreds to lose their shooting area. The rules are there for a reason. [/QUOTE]
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