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<blockquote data-quote="BadgeBunny" data-source="post: 2407359" data-attributes="member: 1242"><p>LOL at Hump!! That thing is WICKED!! <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>Dave, I have 2 sets of waterers for each pen and rotated them out 3 to 4 times a day for the bunnies that are outside. That way I didn't get soaking wet trying to thaw them out and then have to take them back outside while my hands were wet ... <img src="/images/smilies/image057.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":nolike:" title="Image057 :nolike:" data-shortname=":nolike:" /></p><p></p><p>Also, I noticed that the girls who are in the colony (which has an uncovered end) would eat the snow off the tops of their doghouses ... I've seen heated waterers on Amazon and know of a fella who used them last year. He liked them but he had all his bunnies in pens so the electrical elements were somewhat sheltered. That would not be the case with mine. The waterers on my colony are pretty much out in the elements.</p><p></p><p>OK ... 120 ... while my lunch is cooking I'll tell you this much about my rabbit experiences so far ...</p><p></p><p>If you want to keep a colony you are gonna need quite a bit of room. Does are mean and very territorial ... VERY mean ... and VERY VERY territorial ... "Bitches" is not too strong a word. Even now, with 5 different "hidey-holes" for 4 does, I will still find fur thrown here and there from fights that occurred overnight. I have one doe inside right now that the other does ganged up on and I have no doubt would have killed if I hadn't finally removed her from the colony. (We are talking 5 rabbits in a 200 square foot pen.) And every doe I have has torn ears, there's a torn nose here and there but honestly, for the most part, they get along well. It's just that when rabbits fight they mean business ... <img src="/images/smilies/frown.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-shortname=":(" /> And they can do quite a bit of damage in about 0.000048 seconds.</p><p></p><p>The does that are inside pens are in the garage, with sports radio playing 24/7 softly. Nothing rocks their world and I mean NOTHING. The radio playing desensitizes them to noise and they will lounge around and come up to you to get petted even when GC is out in the garage with all his power tools making racket and the neighbor guys over shooting the bull ...</p><p></p><p>Rabbits, in my experience, are just like any other animal. They can be as neurotic as you let them be. If you tip-toe around them they will kill their young, miscarry, injure themselves trying to get away from you when you need to treat them, etc. If you don't put up with that crap, they will be much better off for it and you will find yourself with better momma bunnies in the long run.</p><p></p><p>My rabbits are not afraid of my dogs and will even run the fence and "play" with the dogs. The inside rabbits will greet the dogs at the door of their pen when I feed and water. Of course, I have no illusions about what will happen if I let the dogs and rabbits "play" together but that doesn't mean I need to never let the rabbits see or smell a dog. I've smacked a dog for snapping at a rabbit, just like I've smacked a rabbit for trying to bite me ... LOL </p><p></p><p>I don't leave my poor bucks out in the colony. Those does would make short work of them, one way or the other, I'm afraid. Each buck has his own pen, but they are all outside, too.</p><p></p><p>I've got NZ does, a Calif. buck and a couple of "mutt" bucks.</p><p></p><p>OK ... that's it for now ...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BadgeBunny, post: 2407359, member: 1242"] LOL at Hump!! That thing is WICKED!! :D Dave, I have 2 sets of waterers for each pen and rotated them out 3 to 4 times a day for the bunnies that are outside. That way I didn't get soaking wet trying to thaw them out and then have to take them back outside while my hands were wet ... :nolike: Also, I noticed that the girls who are in the colony (which has an uncovered end) would eat the snow off the tops of their doghouses ... I've seen heated waterers on Amazon and know of a fella who used them last year. He liked them but he had all his bunnies in pens so the electrical elements were somewhat sheltered. That would not be the case with mine. The waterers on my colony are pretty much out in the elements. OK ... 120 ... while my lunch is cooking I'll tell you this much about my rabbit experiences so far ... If you want to keep a colony you are gonna need quite a bit of room. Does are mean and very territorial ... VERY mean ... and VERY VERY territorial ... "Bitches" is not too strong a word. Even now, with 5 different "hidey-holes" for 4 does, I will still find fur thrown here and there from fights that occurred overnight. I have one doe inside right now that the other does ganged up on and I have no doubt would have killed if I hadn't finally removed her from the colony. (We are talking 5 rabbits in a 200 square foot pen.) And every doe I have has torn ears, there's a torn nose here and there but honestly, for the most part, they get along well. It's just that when rabbits fight they mean business ... :( And they can do quite a bit of damage in about 0.000048 seconds. The does that are inside pens are in the garage, with sports radio playing 24/7 softly. Nothing rocks their world and I mean NOTHING. The radio playing desensitizes them to noise and they will lounge around and come up to you to get petted even when GC is out in the garage with all his power tools making racket and the neighbor guys over shooting the bull ... Rabbits, in my experience, are just like any other animal. They can be as neurotic as you let them be. If you tip-toe around them they will kill their young, miscarry, injure themselves trying to get away from you when you need to treat them, etc. If you don't put up with that crap, they will be much better off for it and you will find yourself with better momma bunnies in the long run. My rabbits are not afraid of my dogs and will even run the fence and "play" with the dogs. The inside rabbits will greet the dogs at the door of their pen when I feed and water. Of course, I have no illusions about what will happen if I let the dogs and rabbits "play" together but that doesn't mean I need to never let the rabbits see or smell a dog. I've smacked a dog for snapping at a rabbit, just like I've smacked a rabbit for trying to bite me ... LOL I don't leave my poor bucks out in the colony. Those does would make short work of them, one way or the other, I'm afraid. Each buck has his own pen, but they are all outside, too. I've got NZ does, a Calif. buck and a couple of "mutt" bucks. OK ... that's it for now ... [/QUOTE]
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