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<blockquote data-quote="tulsamal" data-source="post: 2716455" data-attributes="member: 571"><p>I have to mostly agree with that. If the Right picks someone on the far Right and the Left picks Hillary, the majority of the middle will go with Hillary. The majority of this population is female. They have a deep craving to see a female President. Heck, I agree with them. I would love to see someone with the spine and ideology of Thatcher become our President. I just don't think that's Hillary. The majority of highly religious women will vote against Hillary but a very large majority of the rest will go her way. The GOP gives up 90% of the black vote. They are trying hard to do the same thing with the Hispanic vote. We are at 65-70% now but we can get it up to 90% some day. All the middle aged white men in the country can vote GOP, it isn't really going to matter.</p><p></p><p>Look, I complain about RINO's as much as anybody. But a RINO President isn't the same thing as a Representative or Senator. Those lower positions represent specific districts or states. The President is supposed to represent the whole country. Not just the people that voted for him. (This is one of my biggest criticisms of Obama... he needs to go to a history class and read about Eisenhower and civil rights, etc.) So while it would irk me to no end if my Representative was a RINO, I can't honestly say I would rather have someone like Hillary than a RINO Republican as President. Who would you rather have holding the veto pen? Who would you rather have appointing Supreme Court Justices?</p><p></p><p>Jeb would be far from my first choice. Or fifth choice. But I do have to say he gets high marks from the people of his own state for his time as governor. Barbara Bush said many years ago that she always thought Jeb was the one that was President material. Bush 43 made me sigh way too often, I actually think Jeb would do a better job. And I think Jeb can appeal to many of the middle of the road voters. And even pull some of the Hispanics back. In other words, I can see how he can win. (I'm 100% opposed to Christie. I can't handle that one.)</p><p></p><p>Hillary worries me. I'm tired now with Obama after six years. I'm going to be at my limit by the time his second term is up. If we end up with Hillary for two terms, god... that would be hard to live with.</p><p></p><p>Gregg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tulsamal, post: 2716455, member: 571"] I have to mostly agree with that. If the Right picks someone on the far Right and the Left picks Hillary, the majority of the middle will go with Hillary. The majority of this population is female. They have a deep craving to see a female President. Heck, I agree with them. I would love to see someone with the spine and ideology of Thatcher become our President. I just don't think that's Hillary. The majority of highly religious women will vote against Hillary but a very large majority of the rest will go her way. The GOP gives up 90% of the black vote. They are trying hard to do the same thing with the Hispanic vote. We are at 65-70% now but we can get it up to 90% some day. All the middle aged white men in the country can vote GOP, it isn't really going to matter. Look, I complain about RINO's as much as anybody. But a RINO President isn't the same thing as a Representative or Senator. Those lower positions represent specific districts or states. The President is supposed to represent the whole country. Not just the people that voted for him. (This is one of my biggest criticisms of Obama... he needs to go to a history class and read about Eisenhower and civil rights, etc.) So while it would irk me to no end if my Representative was a RINO, I can't honestly say I would rather have someone like Hillary than a RINO Republican as President. Who would you rather have holding the veto pen? Who would you rather have appointing Supreme Court Justices? Jeb would be far from my first choice. Or fifth choice. But I do have to say he gets high marks from the people of his own state for his time as governor. Barbara Bush said many years ago that she always thought Jeb was the one that was President material. Bush 43 made me sigh way too often, I actually think Jeb would do a better job. And I think Jeb can appeal to many of the middle of the road voters. And even pull some of the Hispanics back. In other words, I can see how he can win. (I'm 100% opposed to Christie. I can't handle that one.) Hillary worries me. I'm tired now with Obama after six years. I'm going to be at my limit by the time his second term is up. If we end up with Hillary for two terms, god... that would be hard to live with. Gregg [/QUOTE]
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