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Re: Starbucks or "Slapping an Ally in the Face"
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<blockquote data-quote="Coded-Dude" data-source="post: 2267713" data-attributes="member: 16918"><p>No, not really. I just feel that the argument about OCer's being "targeted" is baseless and detrimental to the "point" which is trying to be made.</p><p>I have no problem with how any of you carry or your choices why, in fact I don't even care.......it's your life. I do not go to StarBucks(don't drink coffee), nor do I normally(if ever) try and congregate with large groups of people to make a political point(that is relative to the reason, but I usually just contribute with money). That being said....</p><p></p><p>I have seen the trouble that the "IN YOUR FACE" OC'ing can cause; it was a "loophole" in CA(unloaded open carry without a permit) until the StarBucks trend started happening out there(a few years ago) and now it is illegal. You could blame the politicians, you could blame the voters for allowing a radical democratic super majority to maintain control of the state house and senate, you could blame the OCer's by themselves, or you could even blame it on a combination of everything(timing, location, perception, politics, etc.).</p><p></p><p>I have also seen how some of the CCer's(the anti-OCer snobs) have lambasted, and otherwise alienated a group of people that want to achieve similar goals; the ability for anybody to carry any way they want for whatever reason they want, and if you don't want that you are also part of the problem(IMHO).</p><p></p><p>Both sides have valid points and we would be best served by sticking to those points rather than attacking each other with mostly improbable situations that have little to no impact on the real issues of the talking points. Our biggest problem is allowing societal slander against firearms(i.e. hollywood, etc) become political talking points based on no factual information. Of course it is certainly difficult to educate someone on the facts when they don't care due mainly in part because of their personal beliefs(and not necessarily on any actual facts). </p><p></p><p>In conclusion - welcome to earth.... <img src="/images/smilies/image096.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":hithead:" title="Image096 :hithead:" data-shortname=":hithead:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Coded-Dude, post: 2267713, member: 16918"] No, not really. I just feel that the argument about OCer's being "targeted" is baseless and detrimental to the "point" which is trying to be made. I have no problem with how any of you carry or your choices why, in fact I don't even care.......it's your life. I do not go to StarBucks(don't drink coffee), nor do I normally(if ever) try and congregate with large groups of people to make a political point(that is relative to the reason, but I usually just contribute with money). That being said.... I have seen the trouble that the "IN YOUR FACE" OC'ing can cause; it was a "loophole" in CA(unloaded open carry without a permit) until the StarBucks trend started happening out there(a few years ago) and now it is illegal. You could blame the politicians, you could blame the voters for allowing a radical democratic super majority to maintain control of the state house and senate, you could blame the OCer's by themselves, or you could even blame it on a combination of everything(timing, location, perception, politics, etc.). I have also seen how some of the CCer's(the anti-OCer snobs) have lambasted, and otherwise alienated a group of people that want to achieve similar goals; the ability for anybody to carry any way they want for whatever reason they want, and if you don't want that you are also part of the problem(IMHO). Both sides have valid points and we would be best served by sticking to those points rather than attacking each other with mostly improbable situations that have little to no impact on the real issues of the talking points. Our biggest problem is allowing societal slander against firearms(i.e. hollywood, etc) become political talking points based on no factual information. Of course it is certainly difficult to educate someone on the facts when they don't care due mainly in part because of their personal beliefs(and not necessarily on any actual facts). In conclusion - welcome to earth.... :hithead: [/QUOTE]
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