Ok, so I tried this once before and it was a failure. I took a pistol I shoot well (Browning Buckmark) and put a rail on top of it, and got an inexpensive red dot (Browning branded one) slapped it on and went to the range. I couldnt find the dot to save my life. I hate the experience so I nixed that and moved on about my business. I still like the idea and wanted to give it another go, so enter the P365XL with a Holosun. This time, the optic is LOW on the gun compared to the other setup and the dot is bigger (I'm using the ring for now)....and I'm giving myself a sporting chance by spending a few weeks finding the sight picture on random stuff around the house and dryfire practice before my first range visit. All this to say, at least at this point, it seems to be going much better. When my presentation doesnt instantly field the reticle, its much quicker to find...and becoming quite easy. The only kicker here is the P365 is a brand new platform for me...but I think the presentation and dryfire practice is going a long way to helping that too. I'm hoping to get to the range next week...I have 3 pistols I need to get some rounds through so we'll see how it goes with the red dot in real time shooting.