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<blockquote data-quote="farmerbyron" data-source="post: 2845758" data-attributes="member: 4953"><p>From your first link. </p><p></p><p>But the Vermont senator himself is loose with his terminology, as he has praised the long social-democratic tradition of Nordic countries as examples of how the United States should operate as a nation. For instance, points to Finland's universal healthcare, free childcare, parental leave benefits, free higher education, low income inequality, and overwhelming unionization of workers. And sometimes he does indeed refer to himself, simply, as "a socialist."</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So he wants the US to be run like the Nordic countries of Europe whom everyone widely understands are socialist countries. You know, high taxation, heavily regulated economies. Places that places excessive taxes on private transportation to encourage use of public transportation. Sure they don't technically force people to live a certain way, just make it prohibitively expensive to deviate from the state interest. Democratic socialist or socialist, it is splitting hairs. </p><p></p><p>The definition of wholly govt controlled and owned industry is out right communism, which honestly is socialism taken to its furthest extent. So if you are using communist ideology as the definition for socialism then sure, democratic socialism is not socialism. My god, the circles of logic required to believe this **** boggle the mind.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="farmerbyron, post: 2845758, member: 4953"] From your first link. But the Vermont senator himself is loose with his terminology, as he has praised the long social-democratic tradition of Nordic countries as examples of how the United States should operate as a nation. For instance, points to Finland's universal healthcare, free childcare, parental leave benefits, free higher education, low income inequality, and overwhelming unionization of workers. And sometimes he does indeed refer to himself, simply, as "a socialist." So he wants the US to be run like the Nordic countries of Europe whom everyone widely understands are socialist countries. You know, high taxation, heavily regulated economies. Places that places excessive taxes on private transportation to encourage use of public transportation. Sure they don't technically force people to live a certain way, just make it prohibitively expensive to deviate from the state interest. Democratic socialist or socialist, it is splitting hairs. The definition of wholly govt controlled and owned industry is out right communism, which honestly is socialism taken to its furthest extent. So if you are using communist ideology as the definition for socialism then sure, democratic socialism is not socialism. My god, the circles of logic required to believe this **** boggle the mind. [/QUOTE]
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