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<blockquote data-quote="Seedy" data-source="post: 1022945" data-attributes="member: 10694">Ok folks, I really appreciate all the advice here.&quot;The day&quot; is getting closer (we just filled out the final verification paperwork for the 1st time home buyers credit).&nbsp; After doing my homework, I think that for an accurate rig that is going to do what I want...I&#039;m afraid I&#039;m going to be over $1KLooking at a Savage model with heavy barrel, accutrigger, SFWA &quot;super sniper&quot; scope, and some half decent mounting hardware is gonna put me out over a grand...I&#039;ve been talking to a buddy who&#039;s son was a Marine Sniper and listening to what he has to say about long range shooting and affordability.&nbsp; He&#039;s been pushing me towards other calibers and single shot/break barrel rigs...The kind of rig I can start a log book and really learn how to adjust for enviornmentals, etc...I&#039;m also looking at the cost of .308 Win. ammo and thinking about the &quot;fun factor&quot; too......also, after shooting the family M1 carbine (waaaaaay too much fun!) I&#039;ve been starting to think about something smaller, lighter, cheap to shoot and fun (notice I didn&#039;t say &quot;highly accurate&quot; <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":D" title="Big Grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D" data-shortname=":D" /> )......so...considering surplus ammo, and what I can get &quot;on the cheap&quot;...I&#039;m starting to think about something that would just be &quot;fun to shoot&quot;...before anyone from the rimfire section jumps on and goes &quot;.22&quot;!!...I&#039;ve already ruled that one out...I want a little more &quot;thump&quot; than that.... <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":D" title="Big Grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D" data-shortname=":D" />&nbsp; The next gun I buy will be a .22lr for the kid though (so suggestions on &quot;junior&quot; guns is welcome).So...I was thinking....that a fun gun to shoot, under $800 would be a Kel-Tec SU-16c with a red dot or holographic sight/scope...&nbsp; Anybody have the Kel-Tec SU-16c?&nbsp; Somebody please come tell me that I&#039;m crazy, or that Kel-Tec&#039;s are crap...or something before I go buy that fun looking little gun!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Seedy, post: 1022945, member: 10694"] Ok folks, I really appreciate all the advice here. "The day" is getting closer (we just filled out the final verification paperwork for the 1st time home buyers credit). After doing my homework, I think that for an accurate rig that is going to do what I want...I'm afraid I'm going to be over $1K Looking at a Savage model with heavy barrel, accutrigger, SFWA "super sniper" scope, and some half decent mounting hardware is gonna put me out over a grand... I've been talking to a buddy who's son was a Marine Sniper and listening to what he has to say about long range shooting and affordability. He's been pushing me towards other calibers and single shot/break barrel rigs...The kind of rig I can start a log book and really learn how to adjust for enviornmentals, etc... I'm also looking at the cost of .308 Win. ammo and thinking about the "fun factor" too... ...also, after shooting the family M1 carbine (waaaaaay too much fun!) I've been starting to think about something smaller, lighter, cheap to shoot and fun (notice I didn't say "highly accurate" :D )... ...so...considering surplus ammo, and what I can get "on the cheap"...I'm starting to think about something that would just be "fun to shoot"...before anyone from the rimfire section jumps on and goes ".22"!!...I've already ruled that one out...I want a little more "thump" than that.... :D The next gun I buy will be a .22lr for the kid though (so suggestions on "junior" guns is welcome). So...I was thinking....that a fun gun to shoot, under $800 would be a Kel-Tec SU-16c with a red dot or holographic sight/scope... Anybody have the Kel-Tec SU-16c? Somebody please come tell me that I'm crazy, or that Kel-Tec's are crap...or something before I go buy that fun looking little gun! [/QUOTE]

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