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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shadowrider" data-source="post: 943033" data-attributes="member: 3099">I don't like the idea of just pushing the neck back down into the shoulder to alleviate trimming.   <img src="/images/smilies/disappoint.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":disappoin" title="Disappoint    :disappoin" data-shortname=":disappoin" />   I'm skeptical.  The metal has to go somewhere or something has to give (such as the shoulder). Some people say they work fabulous and others say it causes problems.  Try it out and post back your results after about 8 firings.  <img src="/images/smilies/new/laugh6.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":laugh6:" title="Laugh6    :laugh6:" data-shortname=":laugh6:" />  I would really like for it to work but I just don't see how it could without really over working some portion of the case.</blockquote>