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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mr ed" data-source="post: 1699557" data-attributes="member: 6777">most american made ammo on store shelves is anywhere from 2-25 years old. extremely popular types may not be so old but, slow movers can be several years old before they even get to the dealers shelf. thats why manufacturers don't change box designs very often.As to the russian ammo. the old surplus stuff was good cause they made it for their comrades to defend the homeland and took pride in quality control. now its crank it out as cheap and fast as possible to make a buck.</blockquote>