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<blockquote data-quote="Gabriel42" data-source="post: 2570790" data-attributes="member: 28680"><p>Made it out to Canadian Valley Ranges today. Took 3 boxes of HPR 168gr BTHP Match .308 ammo. I have had great luck in the past with .380ACP,9mm, .45ACP, and .223 ammo from HPR. It is uniform, accurate and clean. I started at 25yds to make sure I was on paper and then moved out. Groups are below. </p><p></p><p>25yds</p><p><img src="https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/i1132.photobucket.com_albums_m575_gabrielmkvigli_OSA_54B73B1F_b128dd4d498deaf05d18def3f78f8171.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>50yds</p><p><img src="https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/i1132.photobucket.com_albums_m575_gabrielmkvigli_OSA_D3D67CEB_a5f6253bd677c995b9bbccf7abd705ba.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>100yds (Extracting cases with cleaning rod is frustrating and causes big groups, more on that below.)</p><p><img src="https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/i1132.photobucket.com_albums_m575_gabrielmkvigli_OSA_1C878F27_3c087102d7621cfc9305ed6f30432b23.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Shot 3 rounds at 25yds, 3 rounds at 50yds and then moved to the 100yd line. Shot 6 rounds, dialing in the scope after each string of 3. The 13th round of the day is where it all went to sh*t. 8 of the last 10 rounds I shot did not extract because the extractor ripped off the lip of the case. Additionally, 1 of the 8 that did not extract had the primer blow out. Pic is below. A guy shooting next to me was kind enough to hand me a LC cased load and while it didn't rip the case lip, there was a definite attempt to bend it made on behalf of the extractor. </p><p></p><p><img src="https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/i1132.photobucket.com_albums_m575_gabrielmkvigli_OSA_69312832_cbf7cc784deda3a4de7a994aec594e2e.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>My thoughts are that it is still overgassed. I did not make any adjustments after the range trip on Monday and seem to have misplaced the provided 2mm ball Allen wrench that came with the block. Related note: 2mm ball driver will be delivered tomorrow afternoon. </p><p></p><p>Taking the rifle down and inspecting it tonight and taking it in to work tomorrow to have the gunsmith and another guy take a look. Will update with findings.</p><p></p><p>Also, anyone know of a good iPhone app that does the shot group measurement from a picture?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gabriel42, post: 2570790, member: 28680"] Made it out to Canadian Valley Ranges today. Took 3 boxes of HPR 168gr BTHP Match .308 ammo. I have had great luck in the past with .380ACP,9mm, .45ACP, and .223 ammo from HPR. It is uniform, accurate and clean. I started at 25yds to make sure I was on paper and then moved out. Groups are below. 25yds [IMG]https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/i1132.photobucket.com_albums_m575_gabrielmkvigli_OSA_54B73B1F_b128dd4d498deaf05d18def3f78f8171.jpg[/IMG] 50yds [IMG]https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/i1132.photobucket.com_albums_m575_gabrielmkvigli_OSA_D3D67CEB_a5f6253bd677c995b9bbccf7abd705ba.jpg[/IMG] 100yds (Extracting cases with cleaning rod is frustrating and causes big groups, more on that below.) [IMG]https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/i1132.photobucket.com_albums_m575_gabrielmkvigli_OSA_1C878F27_3c087102d7621cfc9305ed6f30432b23.jpg[/IMG] Shot 3 rounds at 25yds, 3 rounds at 50yds and then moved to the 100yd line. Shot 6 rounds, dialing in the scope after each string of 3. The 13th round of the day is where it all went to sh*t. 8 of the last 10 rounds I shot did not extract because the extractor ripped off the lip of the case. Additionally, 1 of the 8 that did not extract had the primer blow out. Pic is below. A guy shooting next to me was kind enough to hand me a LC cased load and while it didn't rip the case lip, there was a definite attempt to bend it made on behalf of the extractor. [IMG]https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/i1132.photobucket.com_albums_m575_gabrielmkvigli_OSA_69312832_cbf7cc784deda3a4de7a994aec594e2e.jpg[/IMG] My thoughts are that it is still overgassed. I did not make any adjustments after the range trip on Monday and seem to have misplaced the provided 2mm ball Allen wrench that came with the block. Related note: 2mm ball driver will be delivered tomorrow afternoon. Taking the rifle down and inspecting it tonight and taking it in to work tomorrow to have the gunsmith and another guy take a look. Will update with findings. Also, anyone know of a good iPhone app that does the shot group measurement from a picture? [/QUOTE]
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