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<blockquote data-quote="JB Books" data-source="post: 2362155" data-attributes="member: 6889"><p>Lynx, your basic premise is wrong. The whole idea behind America is freedom from a state established religion. It doesn't matter that, in the past, America was a "mostly Christian" country. The law of the land is that we cannot have a state sponsored religion. </p><p></p><p>And as for your comments regarding "God's law" vs. "man's law," in all due respect that is the same sort of mentality that justifies the murder of abortion doctors in the name God.</p><p></p><p>You are in America. You have every right to worship God in whatever manner you wish. That right was guaranteed by the very Founders you view as hubris driven. Your right is absolute UNTIL it infringes on the rights of others.</p><p></p><p>I'm not picking on you, it's just that reading your last post, if we replace God with Allah, it reads like Muslim propaganda. </p><p></p><p>As for the turmoil in our nation, here is the reality: as we progress technologically, we will see more turmoil. I'm not sure these are "end times." People have been preaching about "end times," for over 2000 years. And they have the "proof" to back up their assertions. The early Christians in the late Roman Empire certainly thought the Vandals and Visgoths as the harbringers of end times. In the Middle Ages, the Black Plauge must have been a sign of the Apocalypse. Napoleon was thought of as the AntiChrist. There was end times talk in the American Civil War. The same for World War One. People believed the same about Hitler.</p><p></p><p>My point is that there has been "turmoil" throughout history. As societal norms change, each generation looks back wistfully at the "good old days." </p><p></p><p>I respect your conviction and have no intent to demean or ridicule you. As a Christian, I am very frustrated by the shaming of Christian symbols like Crosses and Nativity scenes. However, I believe we were adjured to live in this world, but not "be" of this world. As I said before, my hope is that everyone will know the saving grace of Jesus Christ and His sacrifice for our salvation, but the Bible also says it is appointed unto each man to find his salvation. I can no more force my fellow Americans to accept Christ with laws, than I could with a gun.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JB Books, post: 2362155, member: 6889"] Lynx, your basic premise is wrong. The whole idea behind America is freedom from a state established religion. It doesn't matter that, in the past, America was a "mostly Christian" country. The law of the land is that we cannot have a state sponsored religion. And as for your comments regarding "God's law" vs. "man's law," in all due respect that is the same sort of mentality that justifies the murder of abortion doctors in the name God. You are in America. You have every right to worship God in whatever manner you wish. That right was guaranteed by the very Founders you view as hubris driven. Your right is absolute UNTIL it infringes on the rights of others. I'm not picking on you, it's just that reading your last post, if we replace God with Allah, it reads like Muslim propaganda. As for the turmoil in our nation, here is the reality: as we progress technologically, we will see more turmoil. I'm not sure these are "end times." People have been preaching about "end times," for over 2000 years. And they have the "proof" to back up their assertions. The early Christians in the late Roman Empire certainly thought the Vandals and Visgoths as the harbringers of end times. In the Middle Ages, the Black Plauge must have been a sign of the Apocalypse. Napoleon was thought of as the AntiChrist. There was end times talk in the American Civil War. The same for World War One. People believed the same about Hitler. My point is that there has been "turmoil" throughout history. As societal norms change, each generation looks back wistfully at the "good old days." I respect your conviction and have no intent to demean or ridicule you. As a Christian, I am very frustrated by the shaming of Christian symbols like Crosses and Nativity scenes. However, I believe we were adjured to live in this world, but not "be" of this world. As I said before, my hope is that everyone will know the saving grace of Jesus Christ and His sacrifice for our salvation, but the Bible also says it is appointed unto each man to find his salvation. I can no more force my fellow Americans to accept Christ with laws, than I could with a gun. [/QUOTE]
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