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<blockquote data-quote="BikerHT" data-source="post: 2068109" data-attributes="member: 24483"><p>^^^^ This. Well intentions, but it won't work. According to the below, there may be another way. Interesting read, to say the least. </p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.americaagainnow.com/can_nullification_beat_obama" target="_blank">http://www.americaagainnow.com/can_nullification_beat_obama</a> </p><p></p><p>Can Nullification Beat Obama?</p><p></p><p>Posted by David Zuniga on January 17, 2013 </p><p></p><p>This week, Rep. Steve Toth announced his plan to file a bill in the Texas Legislature making it a felony for anyone, including a federal employee, to enforce any Obama administration infringement of the right of Texans to keep and bear arms. Legislators in Missouri and other states followed suit, and patriotic citizens are cheering.</p><p> </p><p>Just one problem: any State nullification action on a federal matter falls under 28 USC 1441, Removal Jurisdiction. </p><p></p><p><strong>Obama and the feds can beat the rap</strong></p><p> </p><p>So the fix is in. Congress passed this demonically clever law to allow its own federal courts to spring its federal thugs -- even members of Congress themselves! -- from State custody when indicted, even on State crimes as long as the matter in question is a federal matter.</p><p> </p><p>Here's how it plays out. Say federal thug Joe Jackboot tries to enforce a gun-grabber law passed down from Obama's throne, against a Texan. Say the Texas court instructs a Texas Ranger or sheriff to arrest Mr. Jackboot for violating the new Texas nullification law. Mr. Jackboot has only to file a one-page Removal Jurisdiction request with the federal magistrate, and that same day, he walks. That's 28 USC 1441; a get-out-of-jail-free card, courtesy of Congress.</p><p> </p><p>The federal thug violates a State law but the matter in question (firearms) falls under the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution -- it's clearly a federal matter. On this or any other federal matter, State nullification actions can't stop federal thugs; like a BB gun against a rhinoceros. Fire as many times as you like; no effect. </p><p> </p><p><strong>Time to End the role-reversal</strong></p><p> </p><p>The States are the creator parties to the US Constitution, and the federal government is the creature (creation) of that Constitution. Jefferson and Madison agreed that when the federal servant slips its leash, it can't judge its own case; the creators -- the States -- have to do so. But those two founding fathers differed on how the States should stop the federal servant. </p><p> </p><p>Jefferson preferred nullification -- after the federal servant violates the Constitution, the State legislature thumbs its nose at its federal servant. That's what we've seen playing out in the State legislatures (and with many State attorneys general and governors) for the past years. Madison -- the father of the Constitution -- preferred interposition. That means the State gets in between the federal servant and its citizen sovereigns, to stop the federal servant, "judge of the onfraction, and apply remedies".</p><p> </p><p><strong>AmericaAgain! is taking Madison's plan</strong></p><p> </p><p>AmericaAgain!, a perpetual charitable trust, is taking Madison's plan. We are targeting the big fish in Congress; forget lowly federal thugs, they're only following orders. </p><p> </p><p>The AmericaAgain! Indictment Engine&#8482; is a set of algorithms that harmonize the politician's violations of the U.S. Constitution with his State Penal Code violations, leaving no federal question. All plaintiffs being AmericaAgain! members also resident in the defendant's State, there is also no federal diversity jurisdiction. </p><p> </p><p>According to 28 USC 1441(a) itself, the federal courts at any level are out of luck; they have neither original or appellate jurisdiction.</p><p> </p><p>We The People now go on offense against those members of Congress involved in organized crime. And as for presidents like Obama -- remember that Congress funds every action of presidents. No funds, no action.</p><p> </p><p><strong>A Target-Rich Environment</strong></p><p> </p><p>Forget the latest gun-grab attempt; it's just our wake-up call. Consider these three mega-crimes, out of hundreds...</p><p> </p><p>1) Congress' FED counterfeiting concession celebrates its 100th anniversary this year. It is driving our economy and that of the whole world into Great Depression II. Most analysts think it's an even bet that the wheels come off this year; the end of a counterfeit 'dollar' made of fraud, debt, and paper printed by the FED cartel. Get ready; it's coming. </p><p> </p><p>2) Congress' credit card debt isn't $16 trillion; it's $122 trillion and growing (fast) when you include all unfunded liabilities...Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, unemployment, prescription drug benefits, etc. There exists no mathematical possibility of servicing that liability on today's demographic curve. Default is ahead -- and it's Congress' fault.</p><p> </p><p>3) Congress' new $1 billion NSA spying center in Bluffdale, Utah should never be opened. It is an egregious violation of the Fourth Amendment; even China hasn't reached that level of spying on its employers' telephone calls, emails, and sales receipts. Approved and funded by Congress, this may be the most staggeringly tyrannical, lawless project ever attempted against a free people.</p><p> </p><p><strong>The Empire Strikes Back</strong></p><p> </p><p>We The People now have a plan, too! Without divulging how the AmericaAgain! Indictment Engine&#8482; works, I will say that AmericaAgain! intends to have State courts seeking indictments against members of Congress this year.</p><p> </p><p>Whatever we face in the coming economic maelstrom, We The People can assure that this recovery is durable. Senator and congressman, if you're aiding and abetting crime, we're coming for you.</p><p> </p><p>Obama is our long-overdue wake-up call. So-called 'assault weapons' aren't what Washington DC should fear. We The People will have much bigger guns in up to 535 State criminal courts from now on. Barack Hussein Obama's legacy is pure irony -- he did not start Marxism in America. He has finished it.</p><p> </p><p>Copyright 2013 AmericaAgain! Trust</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BikerHT, post: 2068109, member: 24483"] ^^^^ This. Well intentions, but it won't work. According to the below, there may be another way. Interesting read, to say the least. [url]http://www.americaagainnow.com/can_nullification_beat_obama[/url] Can Nullification Beat Obama? Posted by David Zuniga on January 17, 2013 This week, Rep. Steve Toth announced his plan to file a bill in the Texas Legislature making it a felony for anyone, including a federal employee, to enforce any Obama administration infringement of the right of Texans to keep and bear arms. Legislators in Missouri and other states followed suit, and patriotic citizens are cheering. Just one problem: any State nullification action on a federal matter falls under 28 USC 1441, Removal Jurisdiction. [B]Obama and the feds can beat the rap[/B] So the fix is in. Congress passed this demonically clever law to allow its own federal courts to spring its federal thugs -- even members of Congress themselves! -- from State custody when indicted, even on State crimes as long as the matter in question is a federal matter. Here's how it plays out. Say federal thug Joe Jackboot tries to enforce a gun-grabber law passed down from Obama's throne, against a Texan. Say the Texas court instructs a Texas Ranger or sheriff to arrest Mr. Jackboot for violating the new Texas nullification law. Mr. Jackboot has only to file a one-page Removal Jurisdiction request with the federal magistrate, and that same day, he walks. That's 28 USC 1441; a get-out-of-jail-free card, courtesy of Congress. The federal thug violates a State law but the matter in question (firearms) falls under the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution -- it's clearly a federal matter. On this or any other federal matter, State nullification actions can't stop federal thugs; like a BB gun against a rhinoceros. Fire as many times as you like; no effect. [B]Time to End the role-reversal[/B] The States are the creator parties to the US Constitution, and the federal government is the creature (creation) of that Constitution. Jefferson and Madison agreed that when the federal servant slips its leash, it can't judge its own case; the creators -- the States -- have to do so. But those two founding fathers differed on how the States should stop the federal servant. Jefferson preferred nullification -- after the federal servant violates the Constitution, the State legislature thumbs its nose at its federal servant. That's what we've seen playing out in the State legislatures (and with many State attorneys general and governors) for the past years. Madison -- the father of the Constitution -- preferred interposition. That means the State gets in between the federal servant and its citizen sovereigns, to stop the federal servant, "judge of the onfraction, and apply remedies". [B]AmericaAgain! is taking Madison's plan[/B] AmericaAgain!, a perpetual charitable trust, is taking Madison's plan. We are targeting the big fish in Congress; forget lowly federal thugs, they're only following orders. The AmericaAgain! Indictment Engine™ is a set of algorithms that harmonize the politician's violations of the U.S. Constitution with his State Penal Code violations, leaving no federal question. All plaintiffs being AmericaAgain! members also resident in the defendant's State, there is also no federal diversity jurisdiction. According to 28 USC 1441(a) itself, the federal courts at any level are out of luck; they have neither original or appellate jurisdiction. We The People now go on offense against those members of Congress involved in organized crime. And as for presidents like Obama -- remember that Congress funds every action of presidents. No funds, no action. [B]A Target-Rich Environment[/B] Forget the latest gun-grab attempt; it's just our wake-up call. Consider these three mega-crimes, out of hundreds... 1) Congress' FED counterfeiting concession celebrates its 100th anniversary this year. It is driving our economy and that of the whole world into Great Depression II. Most analysts think it's an even bet that the wheels come off this year; the end of a counterfeit 'dollar' made of fraud, debt, and paper printed by the FED cartel. Get ready; it's coming. 2) Congress' credit card debt isn't $16 trillion; it's $122 trillion and growing (fast) when you include all unfunded liabilities...Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, unemployment, prescription drug benefits, etc. There exists no mathematical possibility of servicing that liability on today's demographic curve. Default is ahead -- and it's Congress' fault. 3) Congress' new $1 billion NSA spying center in Bluffdale, Utah should never be opened. It is an egregious violation of the Fourth Amendment; even China hasn't reached that level of spying on its employers' telephone calls, emails, and sales receipts. Approved and funded by Congress, this may be the most staggeringly tyrannical, lawless project ever attempted against a free people. [B]The Empire Strikes Back[/B] We The People now have a plan, too! Without divulging how the AmericaAgain! Indictment Engine™ works, I will say that AmericaAgain! intends to have State courts seeking indictments against members of Congress this year. Whatever we face in the coming economic maelstrom, We The People can assure that this recovery is durable. Senator and congressman, if you're aiding and abetting crime, we're coming for you. Obama is our long-overdue wake-up call. So-called 'assault weapons' aren't what Washington DC should fear. We The People will have much bigger guns in up to 535 State criminal courts from now on. Barack Hussein Obama's legacy is pure irony -- he did not start Marxism in America. He has finished it. Copyright 2013 AmericaAgain! Trust [/QUOTE]
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