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Message: <blockquote data-quote="10Seconds" data-source="post: 2018583" data-attributes="member: 24432">You guys are coming up with good ideas, but remember that many school shootings like Columbine were done by students.  So a secure perimeter would not help when the shooter is already inside.  Also while the idea of keeping the doors locked is good, but if you are a crazed shooter it would only take a round or two to get in through a window and all schools have a lot of these.  I dont think you can secure the school in a way to keep an intent shooter out.  At least not in a cost effective way. We have got to come up with effective ways to stop one when he is already inside.  Arming people inside is a good start.But ultimately that would only reduce casulties not prevent these shootings.  And if you have the school protected these sickos might just choose another target.  What about the school bus when its almost full, etc.    The only way to prevent these tragedies is to identify the threat before he attacks.  Not that I would endorese it by any means but for discission purposes, a gun ban wo uld likely stop these shootings completely.  While we know criminals will still be able to get guns the average guy would have a hard time and might get identified when he tried.  Not one of any of these mass shooters was part of any criminal organization where he could have had easy access to guns.  The all got them legally or from someone else who did.</blockquote>