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<blockquote data-quote="donner" data-source="post: 3074147" data-attributes="member: 277">people will believe what they want to believe. The reality is that it&#039;s all politics and neither side ever really has the moral high ground. The Dems picked DACA to take their stand, the Republicans waited until the 11th hour to try to fund CHIP and are using it as their &#039;but think of the children!&#039; moment.Trump appears to have wanted it tied to funding for the border wall (one that some here thought wasn&#039;t actually a physical wall when trump first suggested it, as well as one that they said mexico would pay for). This isn&#039;t about any disagreement for funding the government. It&#039;s about all sides trying to demand to get what they want and being unwilling (prior to the shutdown) to work together to reach an agreement to keep things running. Everyone is pandering to their base and desperately searching for the next slogan to slap on a direct mailer so they can raise funds to get reelected.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="donner, post: 3074147, member: 277"] people will believe what they want to believe. The reality is that it's all politics and neither side ever really has the moral high ground. The Dems picked DACA to take their stand, the Republicans waited until the 11th hour to try to fund CHIP and are using it as their 'but think of the children!' moment. Trump appears to have wanted it tied to funding for the border wall (one that some here thought wasn't actually a physical wall when trump first suggested it, as well as one that they said mexico would pay for). This isn't about any disagreement for funding the government. It's about all sides trying to demand to get what they want and being unwilling (prior to the shutdown) to work together to reach an agreement to keep things running. Everyone is pandering to their base and desperately searching for the next slogan to slap on a direct mailer so they can raise funds to get reelected. [/QUOTE]

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