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<blockquote data-quote="Crosstimbers Okie" data-source="post: 2685821" data-attributes="member: 760"><p>Ditto...</p><p></p><p>And... We in the gun rights community have been natural allies with law enforcement for a long time. I can think of no better way to endanger our rights than to become seen as enemies of the people whose duty it is to enforce the law. </p><p></p><p>In this case macho was likely an element on both sides. At some point it became personal between all of the parties involved. I have no doubt that the officer, however, was not looking to get into a conflict with this guy. He was dispatched to a call. He went, which is what he's paid to do.</p><p></p><p>An acquaintance of mine is one of the founding members and current president of an organization I belong to; the Western Missouri Shooters Alliance. It's a grassroots NRA affiliate and is primarily responsible for the passages of Missouri's concealed weapons law after twelve years of battles in the legislature and the courts. His name is Kevin Jamison, and he's a practicing criminal defense attorney in Kansas City, MO, specializing in weapons & self-defense law.</p><p></p><p>Kevin frequently states that the side of the road is no place to have constitutional discussions and legal debates with law enforcement. That's what the courts are for. If this officer had Tased a dog or two there likely would have been no permanent harm done. Cops know this because they have the pleasure of being tased as part of the certification for carrying Tasers. Shotguns don't have a temporary effect.</p><p></p><p>This is a case of murder.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Crosstimbers Okie, post: 2685821, member: 760"] Ditto... And... We in the gun rights community have been natural allies with law enforcement for a long time. I can think of no better way to endanger our rights than to become seen as enemies of the people whose duty it is to enforce the law. In this case macho was likely an element on both sides. At some point it became personal between all of the parties involved. I have no doubt that the officer, however, was not looking to get into a conflict with this guy. He was dispatched to a call. He went, which is what he's paid to do. An acquaintance of mine is one of the founding members and current president of an organization I belong to; the Western Missouri Shooters Alliance. It's a grassroots NRA affiliate and is primarily responsible for the passages of Missouri's concealed weapons law after twelve years of battles in the legislature and the courts. His name is Kevin Jamison, and he's a practicing criminal defense attorney in Kansas City, MO, specializing in weapons & self-defense law. Kevin frequently states that the side of the road is no place to have constitutional discussions and legal debates with law enforcement. That's what the courts are for. If this officer had Tased a dog or two there likely would have been no permanent harm done. Cops know this because they have the pleasure of being tased as part of the certification for carrying Tasers. Shotguns don't have a temporary effect. This is a case of murder. [/QUOTE]
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