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so that shooting/stabbing yesterday in moore... isis attack?
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<blockquote data-quote="soonerwings" data-source="post: 2627416" data-attributes="member: 8035"><p>The distinction that you and Dennis seem loathe to acknowledge is that both Hasan and Nolen KILLED THEIR OWN COWORKERS. That does NOT make every casualty in war an incident of workplace violence. I suspect that if everyone signing up thought that being in the states posed the same risk as being deployed that we'd have a far smaller volunteer force. Heck, if an American GI goes a nuts and kills his CO or blows up his buddies with a grenade does that make him a terrorist? After all, some people get scared afterward. </p><p> Hasan is more borderline to me. That guy was killing agents of the American government after all, but I never really read into what was found about his motives. If they were to terrorize a population and try to bend a government to his will, terrorism. If they were simple vengeance or just plain old mental illness, workplace violence. </p><p> Nolen worked at a place that distributes fresh produce and was angry at someone who had three strikes in his mind. She was 1. A woman 2. White and 3. An infidel. To me, this looks, smells, and walks a lot more like a hate crime in the workplace than terrorism.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="soonerwings, post: 2627416, member: 8035"] The distinction that you and Dennis seem loathe to acknowledge is that both Hasan and Nolen KILLED THEIR OWN COWORKERS. That does NOT make every casualty in war an incident of workplace violence. I suspect that if everyone signing up thought that being in the states posed the same risk as being deployed that we'd have a far smaller volunteer force. Heck, if an American GI goes a nuts and kills his CO or blows up his buddies with a grenade does that make him a terrorist? After all, some people get scared afterward. Hasan is more borderline to me. That guy was killing agents of the American government after all, but I never really read into what was found about his motives. If they were to terrorize a population and try to bend a government to his will, terrorism. If they were simple vengeance or just plain old mental illness, workplace violence. Nolen worked at a place that distributes fresh produce and was angry at someone who had three strikes in his mind. She was 1. A woman 2. White and 3. An infidel. To me, this looks, smells, and walks a lot more like a hate crime in the workplace than terrorism. [/QUOTE]
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