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<blockquote data-quote="Hooligan" data-source="post: 2023751" data-attributes="member: 26226"><p>This is my rant, and I am fuming. Yes, it is very sad that a lunatic went on a rampage, if that is truly what happened. I feel great sympathy for the ones left to deal with the grief. That being said, I do not believe the gun culture has any blame in this tragedy. Going after honest, lawful gun owners is not an answer. The firearms purportedly used were not legally obtained by the shooter. They were stolen and used to murder their owner who, as far as I can tell, legally bought them. This being the first of his many capital crimes. Granted the firearms should have been secured, but the firearms have zero culpability. A firearm can be a dangerous tool, but a tool nonetheless. Should we ban airplanes because they can and have been used as weapons of mass murder? Do we register hammers because they can and have been used for murder? Maybe we should just take the nails and place them in a locked cabinet and do background checks before we sell them to the Romans again . That should do it right?!? My point is we have gun laws in place that this administration finds itself unwilling to enforce, remember fast and furious. How many people have and will die due to our peace loving government allowing; to use their phrase; "weapons of war" to be sold directly to bad individuals. More than 2,500 arms were sold in fast and furious and not just anti-personnel weapons but anti-tank/aircraft weapons, which is what the .50 Cal round was designed for. To purchase a firearm from a licensed dealer we have to fill out a form 4473 and that is not for weapons of war. For a weapon of war one must fill a form 4 with the ATF. Therefore unless the Bushmaster was capable of selective fire, short barreled, silenced or some other way modified it was a legally owned firearm, not a weapon of war. As far as high capacity clips go the only clip used in an AR-15 would be a stripper clip used to load the MAGAZINE not the rifle. Btw stripper clips hold ten rounds, not high capacity. Journalists need to do a bit a research before they pontificate on something they know little about. The 2nd amendment to the constitution grants us a well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. When this was written had the People not been equally armed as the British we would not be The USA. Yes there is still a disparity of force, but at least at this point we have a fighting chance, and I believe that is what our founders and framers of the constitution wanted. I don't feel any better, but I will stop there.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hooligan, post: 2023751, member: 26226"] This is my rant, and I am fuming. Yes, it is very sad that a lunatic went on a rampage, if that is truly what happened. I feel great sympathy for the ones left to deal with the grief. That being said, I do not believe the gun culture has any blame in this tragedy. Going after honest, lawful gun owners is not an answer. The firearms purportedly used were not legally obtained by the shooter. They were stolen and used to murder their owner who, as far as I can tell, legally bought them. This being the first of his many capital crimes. Granted the firearms should have been secured, but the firearms have zero culpability. A firearm can be a dangerous tool, but a tool nonetheless. Should we ban airplanes because they can and have been used as weapons of mass murder? Do we register hammers because they can and have been used for murder? Maybe we should just take the nails and place them in a locked cabinet and do background checks before we sell them to the Romans again . That should do it right?!? My point is we have gun laws in place that this administration finds itself unwilling to enforce, remember fast and furious. How many people have and will die due to our peace loving government allowing; to use their phrase; "weapons of war" to be sold directly to bad individuals. More than 2,500 arms were sold in fast and furious and not just anti-personnel weapons but anti-tank/aircraft weapons, which is what the .50 Cal round was designed for. To purchase a firearm from a licensed dealer we have to fill out a form 4473 and that is not for weapons of war. For a weapon of war one must fill a form 4 with the ATF. Therefore unless the Bushmaster was capable of selective fire, short barreled, silenced or some other way modified it was a legally owned firearm, not a weapon of war. As far as high capacity clips go the only clip used in an AR-15 would be a stripper clip used to load the MAGAZINE not the rifle. Btw stripper clips hold ten rounds, not high capacity. Journalists need to do a bit a research before they pontificate on something they know little about. The 2nd amendment to the constitution grants us a well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. When this was written had the People not been equally armed as the British we would not be The USA. Yes there is still a disparity of force, but at least at this point we have a fighting chance, and I believe that is what our founders and framers of the constitution wanted. I don't feel any better, but I will stop there. [/QUOTE]
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