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<blockquote data-quote="ez bake" data-source="post: 2478717" data-attributes="member: 229"><p>Sigh...</p><p></p><p>Easy killer - I never called you a liar I was just responding to this:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Which is sort of calling out a lot of us who own $200+ knives (and use them) as liars. Batonning with a liner-lock folder (with the lock-bar engaged) is not a good idea and as I've said, if you did this you more than likely did damage to the knife - damage that Ontario will likely tell you is abuse (so you've voided your warranty), and damage that might not be showing up now, but will likely cause the knife to fail if you're using it in any way that puts stress on the lock-bar (the most common use is stabbing) since you've essentially peened the lock-bar face. </p><p>That's physics - it's not my fault and by stating that, I'm not calling you a liar.</p><p></p><p>I said that because I honestly don't want to see you lose a finger just to prove how bad-ass your knife is. Knives are tools - they can and do fail when abused or used incorrectly. </p><p></p><p>The Ontario RAT 1 is a great knife (better than a lot of more expensive folders). Like I said, I've owned 2 of them and a RAT-2 (and given a few of them away as gifts), but it has it's limitations just like any other tool and it is in no way better than all of the other knives listed in this thread so far. I don't know why you are so angry that anyone would own a more expensive folding knife, but you sound like you have some sort of chip on your shoulder about it. If you say you batonned with your liner-lock folder than cool. Pics don't prove that and someone saying they use their $200 knife isn't proving anything by posting pics either.</p><p></p><p>But calling everyone who owns a more expensive knife out (and then raging about anyone having the audacity to question your logic or actions) doesn't exactly give you any credibility. Settle down man - folding knives are plentiful and there's enough variety and options now that we can all own what we want. </p><p></p><p>That's the cool thing about the knife-world right now - there's something for everyone. No need to get angry because someone else has something different. </p><p></p><p>Seriously though - if you've batonned with that RAT-1, I'd at least check it for failure by doing a soft spine-tap or stab test (fingers out of the way). They aren't designed to do that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ez bake, post: 2478717, member: 229"] Sigh... Easy killer - I never called you a liar I was just responding to this: Which is sort of calling out a lot of us who own $200+ knives (and use them) as liars. Batonning with a liner-lock folder (with the lock-bar engaged) is not a good idea and as I've said, if you did this you more than likely did damage to the knife - damage that Ontario will likely tell you is abuse (so you've voided your warranty), and damage that might not be showing up now, but will likely cause the knife to fail if you're using it in any way that puts stress on the lock-bar (the most common use is stabbing) since you've essentially peened the lock-bar face. That's physics - it's not my fault and by stating that, I'm not calling you a liar. I said that because I honestly don't want to see you lose a finger just to prove how bad-ass your knife is. Knives are tools - they can and do fail when abused or used incorrectly. The Ontario RAT 1 is a great knife (better than a lot of more expensive folders). Like I said, I've owned 2 of them and a RAT-2 (and given a few of them away as gifts), but it has it's limitations just like any other tool and it is in no way better than all of the other knives listed in this thread so far. I don't know why you are so angry that anyone would own a more expensive folding knife, but you sound like you have some sort of chip on your shoulder about it. If you say you batonned with your liner-lock folder than cool. Pics don't prove that and someone saying they use their $200 knife isn't proving anything by posting pics either. But calling everyone who owns a more expensive knife out (and then raging about anyone having the audacity to question your logic or actions) doesn't exactly give you any credibility. Settle down man - folding knives are plentiful and there's enough variety and options now that we can all own what we want. That's the cool thing about the knife-world right now - there's something for everyone. No need to get angry because someone else has something different. Seriously though - if you've batonned with that RAT-1, I'd at least check it for failure by doing a soft spine-tap or stab test (fingers out of the way). They aren't designed to do that. [/QUOTE]
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