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Message: <blockquote data-quote="RustyZX9" data-source="post: 1081024" data-attributes="member: 1695">After 200 9mm and 300 .40 S&W test rounds I have seen ZERO tumbling with WST... And no leading in either barrel. The smoke is 1/3 what it was with TG as well. The recoil impulse is a nice push rather than a snap as well. The Titegroup works really well for subsonic FMJ's though.Another change that was made per a suggestion from Lance was to go a little longer on the AOL in order to get the crimp off the shoulder of the bullet and down onto the side as much as possible. All of these little adjustments seem to be working nicely. The true test always seems to be at a match though. lol...</blockquote>