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<blockquote data-quote="NikatKimber" data-source="post: 2042568" data-attributes="member: 423">The crux of what I have heard is this: &quot;OMG, why do you need a XYZ gun and 987rd capacity mag other than for killing?&quot;It&#039;s obviously an emotionally charged rhetorical question with no good answer.In their mind, if you say &quot;the Constitution doesn&#039;t require a justification for need. It is an absolute right; it does not apply only to weapons from that time, and it does not only apply if the keeper/bearer has a valid justification;&quot; then you have admitted that the only valid purpose is killing - again, in their minds.Also, if you say that &quot;that is not the only purpose of owning a gun;&quot; then you&#039;re admitting that justification for owning is allowable - again, in their minds.Finally, if you address the emotion behind, &quot;killing people&quot; - which right now implies innocent 6 and 7 year old children, you just get stonewalled on the &quot;what! you heartless bastard! don&#039;t you care about the children!?!? or are you wanting to slaughter more yourself?!?!&quot;Oh, P.S., you have about 5 seconds to give one line, before they start pounding you with the straw man they built.Oh, P.P.S., if you get enough in to stop the line of BS they&#039;ll surely be waiting to start in with, you get this line:&quot;after such a tragedy, I don&#039;t want to hear you gun freaks whining about wanting to keep your guns... this just isn&#039;t the time. We should be talking about common sense gun restrictions. After all, come on, it&#039;s &quot;common sense.&quot;&quot;Blah.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="NikatKimber, post: 2042568, member: 423"] The crux of what I have heard is this: "OMG, why do you need a XYZ gun and 987rd capacity mag [B][I]other than for killing[/I][/B]?" It's obviously an emotionally charged rhetorical question with no good answer. In their mind, if you say "the Constitution doesn't require a justification for [I]need[/I]. It is an absolute right; it does not apply only to weapons from that time, and it does not only apply if the keeper/bearer has a valid justification;" then you have admitted that the only valid purpose is killing - again, in their minds. Also, if you say that "that is not the only purpose of owning a gun;" then you're admitting that justification for owning is allowable - again, in their minds. Finally, if you address the emotion behind, "killing people" - which right now implies innocent 6 and 7 year old children, you just get stonewalled on the "what! you heartless bastard! don't you care about the children!?!? or are you wanting to slaughter more yourself?!?!" Oh, P.S., you have about 5 seconds to give one line, before they start pounding you with the straw man they built. Oh, P.P.S., if you get enough in to stop the line of BS they'll surely be waiting to start in with, you get this line: "after such a tragedy, I don't want to hear you gun freaks whining about wanting to keep your guns... this just isn't the time. We should be talking about common sense gun restrictions. After all, come on, it's "common sense."" Blah. [/QUOTE]

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