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<blockquote data-quote="Dr. Barry Greyson" data-source="post: 904850" data-attributes="member: 555"><p>Glocktogo:</p><p> Thanks for the votes of confidence! I'm sure Olyeller appreciates it as much as I do...<img src="/images/smilies/smile.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>BJG</p><p></p><p>As for the Springer, you guys are kind dancing around what the problem may or may not be. All 1911s should run with any good factory magazine. If the mag catch is "low" the factory magazine maybe sitting too low in the gun for smooth feeding. The barrel may or may not be in the proper place in the slide. If it is sitting up too far into the upper lugs it is the same effect as the magazine catch being too low. And if the the magazine catch is too low and the barrel is too high you have 2x the problem plus maybe the extractor binding on the cartridge rim as the cartridge comes up...everything is connected in function in a 1911. </p><p>From what was said earlier you used a Metalform Elite magazine and the problem went away...the Metalform Elite copies Tripp Research and the mag catch slot is cut lower on the mag then say an original Wilson 47D which raises the magazine in the gun giving the cartridge a straighter shot at the chamber. In the past some of the after market companies would raise the shelf on the magazine catch .045" to accomplish the same thing to correct factory variations before the aftermarket companies started modifying their magazines. So now you could raise the mag catch .045" and if you were not familiar with the magazine you were using raise the mag another .045" to equal .090"...Of course your loaded mag might then hit the ejector and after slamming it "home" a bunch of times there goes your extended ejector with a broken nose or it gets bent to one side and jams the magazine and the mag doesn't drop properly. So ...how far do you want to take these scenarios into 1911 insanity...lol.</p><p>Swap a mag catch from another 1911 or a new one (e.g. Ed Brown) and if the factory mag is in the same place it isn't the magazine catch. The have a 1911 'smith or someone familiar with 1911 specs measure where the barrel is in relation to the upper lugs. If it is too high that is the problem ...if not then it is frame or barrel throat angle or barrel throat "break over angle" or chamber size is not in "spec"....or it could be a combination of all of the above!<img src="/images/smilies/screwy.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":screwy:" title="Screwy :screwy:" data-shortname=":screwy:" /></p><p>Anyway, all I'm saying is it isn't always as easy as it looks....</p><p></p><p>Have fun ... Barry</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dr. Barry Greyson, post: 904850, member: 555"] Glocktogo: Thanks for the votes of confidence! I'm sure Olyeller appreciates it as much as I do...:) BJG As for the Springer, you guys are kind dancing around what the problem may or may not be. All 1911s should run with any good factory magazine. If the mag catch is "low" the factory magazine maybe sitting too low in the gun for smooth feeding. The barrel may or may not be in the proper place in the slide. If it is sitting up too far into the upper lugs it is the same effect as the magazine catch being too low. And if the the magazine catch is too low and the barrel is too high you have 2x the problem plus maybe the extractor binding on the cartridge rim as the cartridge comes up...everything is connected in function in a 1911. From what was said earlier you used a Metalform Elite magazine and the problem went away...the Metalform Elite copies Tripp Research and the mag catch slot is cut lower on the mag then say an original Wilson 47D which raises the magazine in the gun giving the cartridge a straighter shot at the chamber. In the past some of the after market companies would raise the shelf on the magazine catch .045" to accomplish the same thing to correct factory variations before the aftermarket companies started modifying their magazines. So now you could raise the mag catch .045" and if you were not familiar with the magazine you were using raise the mag another .045" to equal .090"...Of course your loaded mag might then hit the ejector and after slamming it "home" a bunch of times there goes your extended ejector with a broken nose or it gets bent to one side and jams the magazine and the mag doesn't drop properly. So ...how far do you want to take these scenarios into 1911 insanity...lol. Swap a mag catch from another 1911 or a new one (e.g. Ed Brown) and if the factory mag is in the same place it isn't the magazine catch. The have a 1911 'smith or someone familiar with 1911 specs measure where the barrel is in relation to the upper lugs. If it is too high that is the problem ...if not then it is frame or barrel throat angle or barrel throat "break over angle" or chamber size is not in "spec"....or it could be a combination of all of the above!:screwy: Anyway, all I'm saying is it isn't always as easy as it looks.... Have fun ... Barry [/QUOTE]
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