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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dennishoddy" data-source="post: 3002791" data-attributes="member: 5412">We really can't honestly compare the carbon footprint of either can we.It starts with mining the ore and drilling the crude to process chemicals, and fuel. Coal does play a big part in electric cars, although it's not the biggest now. Natural gas has outran it because of obama's war on coal, which has its own carbon footprint,  and it  progresses from that point.Then we have to add in transportation to to the site after the product is manufactured, and so on. A lot of  solar and wind products are built overseas, and shipped here, so we have to add the carbon footprint of the ships, and their fuel, as well as the trucking industry and trains.Anybody that wants to say they can break all that down is just speculating and trying to prove a point. No way that can be compared apples to apples.What we do know is the tax subsidies on ALL of the alternative energies like solar,  wind, and electric cars batteries/cars can't make it on their own without the taxpayers money and have to survive on subsidies.Meanwhile Who subsidizes anybody on the internal combustion side of things, again?</blockquote>